Author Topic: 35 Remington ? (Read 505 times)

257Robt · « **on:** August 31, 2004, 04:52:20 PM »

First, I have a Remington 7600 in 35 Remington and in no way are these loads going to be used in a lever action rifle. I am wondering if there are any good loads, and where I can find them for a 35 Remington. Is it possible to get a good load with a pointed bullet? If so, can the useful range of the 35 Rem be pushed out to 200 yards and if not, have far then. I am trying to find something better than the standard round nose load for deer hunting.

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** August 31, 2004, 06:24:47 PM »

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If so, can the useful range of the 35 Rem be pushed out to 200 yards and if not, have far then. I am trying to find something better than the standard round nose load for deer hunting.

Pointy bullets, even those sleek plastic tipped ones really make no real world difference in any cartridge until you pass the 250 yard mark and really only come into their own past 300 yards.

The .35 Rem just isn't a 200-250 yard gun and you shouldn't try to make it one. Once many years ago (1993 I believe) I took my TC Condenders with a 14" .35 Rem barrel and a 14" 7-30 barrel out to a 250 yard range and shot both. I sighted both in 2" high at 100 yards and fired on a huge back stop with targets attached. The 7-30 with 120s turned in one group of 1.5" and a couple more under 2" that day. It dropped about 10" as I recall. The .35 Rem groups weren't MOA but weren't all that far off it. BUT they dropped well over 2', almost three as I recall. Velocity of them was within 75 fps or so of rifle velocity as you lose very little with this round in a 14" barrel. Now I was using 200 grain RN bullets but any ballistics table will tell you if it had been a spire point the difference at 250 would have been no more than 2"-3" less drop.

So no in my opinion you really shouldn't try to make a 200 yard gun of a .35 Remington. If you do the 200 or the Speer 220 would be the bullet to use and you best know the range and your trajectory perfectly. I'd trust it to 150 "maybe" but prefer to keep it to 100 and just don't take out one of mine if I expect a longer shot to be needed.

jhalcott · « **Reply #2 on:** August 31, 2004, 06:54:23 PM »

most reloading manuals list the .35 Rem.. Hornady makes a spire point 200 grain bullet in 35 caliber. The 35 rem is a SHORT range round.! If you sight it in for a 200 gr/2100 fps muzzle velocity ,you get an impact heidt of about 5"at 100. Unfortunately your impact energy will only be about 1150 foot pounds at 200 yds. If you use 150 yards as a zero you can expect impacts at +1.3"@50, +1.64"@100,zero @150 and -4.9"@200
That is about the limit of the 35 Remington. It is only a replacement for the older 30-30 with slightly better ballistics.

Graybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2004, 07:15:32 PM »

From personal experience on the range I can tell you those numbers won't hold water in the real world. IT just ain't that flat no matter what a ballistics program says.

257Robt · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2004, 07:23:01 PM »

If I can get 150 yards out the rifle I will be very happy. I am trying to find something other than using round nose bullets. I know that the cartridge is a short range cartridge, and it is awesome. I had to ask the 200 yard question to make sure I wasn't missing something. Has anyone tried the Speer 180 Flatnose?

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2004, 12:29:23 AM »

I agree with Greybeard. If you want a gun for over 100 yards buy something else. The .35 rem is one of the finest 100 yard deer and bear guns going! I dont know if it will help but i load rcbs 200fpgc cast bullets with 36 grains of benchmark and it shoots one hole at 50 yards with a peep sight out of my marlin and it hits real hard!

Reed1911 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2004, 01:57:21 AM »

We will be releasing the .35 Remington loaded with 200g PSP bullets at 1900FPS (Test BBL 14"). We'll also be loading it with 158's, 180's, and 220's.

dodgecity · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2004, 05:46:13 AM »

257 Robt, in response to you last question, yes, I load the 180 gr Speer flat nose bullets, in fact, it's one of my favorites. My deer load is a 180 over 35gr of IMR3031. At the woods ranges that I hunt, this round is extremely reliable on white tails, and very accurate out of my 336. Combined with receiver sights, this is a hard outfit to beat for deer hunting in this part of the country. For bear or boar, the 200 gr round nose is the way to go.

Rmouleart · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2004, 06:51:21 AM »

If you want a rifle that shoots relatively flat and hits with authority, The 338 win mag is one that fits the bill, this rifle will recoil much more than your 35, the 338win mag will handle a 300 yards shot with out a problem using a 250gr bullet, this cart is devastating to say the least, reminds me of a 30/06 on steroids LOL. I always liked the 30/06 also, for a all around rifle nothing beats the 30/06 in my book. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

257Robt · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2004, 12:16:09 PM »

Thanks for the info dodgecity. I am going to look further into that load. I am wondering though, what are your normal woods ranges?

dodgecity · « **Reply #10 on:** September 02, 2004, 03:45:34 AM »

257 Robt....my rifle is zeroed for 100 yards, but 90% of the time my shots are taken at 40 to 60 yards.