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Offline Conan The Librarian

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Traveling by RV
« on: February 27, 2012, 03:55:06 AM »
I thought it would be interesting, in retirement, to rent an RV and take some trips with Mrs. The Librarian. The costs were horrifying, and only made some sense when using an RV that we would need to own to stay in one place seasonally. Driving was way too expensive when a large route was considered. How do RV'ers make it worthwhile, or do they just consider it a lifestyle choice and spend the money anyway. It would be interesting to know what the economics of RV'ing are because to me the costs are extremely high, even if you buy a used RV and then sell it in a few years. At least it seems that way.
 
Then there was the problem with the mountains. It seems you need a diesel model, which is much more expensive.
 
Bottom line is that I was repelled by the costs vs benefits.
 
On the other hand, there are a lot of RV'ers out there who seem to be happy with it, although not as many as I recall in the past.

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2012, 04:19:38 AM »
We had a 5th wheel & dodge w/cummins diesel.
Had a insurance claim on the trailer that totaled it out.
So currently we are no traveling with any type of RV.
 
For us it was just to be able to vacation somewhere different as the mood hit us.
We mostly stayed in state as the winters aren't usually all that bad here.
We enjoyed loading up a bunch of grandkids and heading to the lake.
They seemed to enjoy it also, as they seemed to show up even if not invited. ;D
 
If we get another it will be a midsized class A with a diesel.
I took a bus driving certification a few years back and feel the larger RV won't be a problem.
But in all reality we probably won't buy another.
Seems my wife wants to travel to a couple foriegn countires.
Plus she's gotten to where she likes nice hotel rooms. :o
 
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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2012, 04:37:09 AM »
This is beat around quite a bit by those wanting to travel. RV, camper or hotel. Personaly I think the hotel is cheaper but the filth factor is higher. I have also been told if money is tight an RV want go far or often.
I tried the camper and it was more trouble than it was worth to me. The unit that would interest me would be the camper on the pickup. I have never used one but it looks to be more convenient.

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 04:41:33 AM »
This is beat around quite a bit by those wanting to travel. RV, camper or hotel. Personaly I think the hotel is cheaper but the filth factor is higher. I have also been told if money is tight an RV want go far or often.
I tried the camper and it was more trouble than it was worth to me. The unit that would interest me would be the camper on the pickup. I have never used one but it looks to be more convenient.
If I were to buy a camper, this would be it.  it looks like you can have it off the truck in minutes and easy to level up.
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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2012, 06:21:54 AM »
I bought a new Ford HD Diesel and Montana fifth wheel when I retired, we used it quite a bit before they found I had lung cancer, it has been parked for the past 18 months but we plan to get back on the road shortly. We originally planned to sell our home and stay on the road for several years, then find a small place and buy it when we were tired of traveling.
 
We have pets that travel with us so it eliminated problems finding a hotel/motel when they are along.  We try to stay in a place long enough to see the sights, having my own place makes that possible most anywhere we go.  I find it much cheaper to eat, that saves over using a restaurant for meals.  We can visit and stay in places where hotels/motels are limited or do not exist. 
 
Folks that don’t use RVs would be surprised at the RV friendly communities all over the USA.  Many small towns in the mid-west and western states have FREE RV parking and hook-ups and while on the road if you need a place to stop for the night most Sam’s Clubs and Wal Marts allow you to park in their lots at no charge. We like traveling the back roads, to enjoy the sights and people off the beaten path. It’s nice to visit friends and relatives and not have to impose on them.
 
The cost of a RV and tow vehicle as well as a motorhome can be expensive, but there are lots of good deals in used vehicle for those on a tight budget.  Licensing and insurance add to the cost but to me it is money well spent. Just the thought that I’m sleeping in a clean bed each night is worth the price, I don’t have to worry about who was there the night before and what they left on the sheets……….. :o :o :o :o
 

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2012, 07:01:08 AM »
There are lots of part time jobs in campgrounds that include sites.I cant remember any off the top of my head but several websites are available ,loners on wheels,Good Sam,Escapees is a good one.Goodluck

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2012, 07:41:32 AM »
I know many people that move with the seasons.  I saw the same folks coming to Alaska for years.  Five couples came up here every year and had reserved spaces in Santa Land RV park here in North Pole.  They built decks that stayed in place on their spaces.  Each year they would just back in next to the deck and was set for the summer.  Then in the fall they would disconnect all utilities and drive away.  But when the price of gasoline started going up about four years ago they quite coming to Alaska.  Knew several guys that were single, that had trailers and would come up to Valdez for the summer.  Once there they would get a job working on the fishing boats, taking tourist out for the day.  They would spend the entire summer up here working.  But when gas got to be too expensive they quite coming up.

For many years Santa Land RV Park was full every night, with the over flow parking packed as well.  Then the first year when gas went up they did not fill up at night.  Oh it would look full from the highway, but there would be open spaces in the back.  The next two years the number of RVs kept going down and they would be almost empty long before the end of the tourist season.  Two years ago they closed.  Now we see a few RVs during the summer.  No longer the couples spending the summer on a shoe string enjoying Alaska, but the huge motor homes, built on Kenworth Trucks.  The kind that cost more than most peoples homes.  Those and the rental Canadian Campers on trucks, are the only RVs we see now for the summers.  Those are few and far between.  They stay in Sam's Club parking lot, and Pioneer Park in Down Town Fairbanks.  They are just passing through for the night on their way to Denali Park, then on to Anchorage.

Back during the 70s, my Uncle Jerold and his wife Mattie, had a big RV trailer he towed with his Oldsmobile.  He had a home in Michigan, a lot with hookups in Tennessee, and he stayed at an RV park in Homestead Florida during the winter.  Same park same space for almost 20 years.  2 day leasurely drive from the house in Michigan to the place in Tennessee.  Spend a month fishing in Tennessee, then move on to Florida.  In the Spring reverse it.  He and his wife did this for many years, and got to know quite a few folks that was doing the same thing.  When I was stationed in Florida I would see them all winter.

Other relatives have done that since then, but they all seem to get tired of it after two or three years.  The ones I know who seem to last at moving seasonally are the 0nes that buy a summer place in either Florida or Arizona.  Carlos and his wife flew from Eagle River Alaska to Glendale Arizona then back for 20 years then his wife died.  Carlos finally quite coming back to Alaska, and settled in Arizona. 

My uncle Felton and his wife did the same going from Nashville Tennessee to Clearwater Florida for years.  They had bought a small 2 bed room house in Clearwater.  My folks went with them a couple of years and stayed for a few weeks, but my Mother could not stay away from all her phone friends for that long and had to go back to Tennessee.

My Dad bought a nice trailer, and had a Ford 1 ton to tow it with.  Dad wanted to travel once he retired, but Mom had other plans.  Mom refused to go with him while they had the trailer.  In four years they used it twice for one weekend each.  Before Dad retired Mom sold it so she could not be drug off to stay in that thing.  Her words.
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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2012, 08:07:11 AM »
I'm surprised that dad didn't dump mom over irreconcilable differences.
 
 

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2012, 08:12:13 AM »
I bought one 3 years ago after the market went south, and we held it for a couple of years. We got it cheap, and decided to give it a try. The gas cost to get anywhere in it was the main deal breaker, since it seemed like we really needed to stay a while or gas costs would skyrocket. We figured that for our family, we were better off driviing and getting a hotel, or saving a lot more by camping in a tent. On top of high cost of actual use, if you buy one you have to store it, pay taxes, put tags on it, and then all of the maintenence that is constantly needed. I ended up selling ours for more than I paid for it, and figured it was still an overall loss. If I were to do it again, I'd buy a trailer, and tow it with a diesel truck, or get a little popup and haul it with a smaller truck.

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2012, 02:02:16 PM »
Hey Sourdough. I bet that RV park in homestead FL was the same one I lived in for a year while I was working hurricane Andrew. I think there or was only one park in that town. Dale
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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 05:45:34 AM »
     A RV is like many things in life, you make the financial decision to have one or not we are on our 4th motorhome, and enjoy it do we use it all the time no but I would guess that there are several people who have boats, planes or even guns that dont get used all the time, I enjoy hooking the little chevy tracker up to the tow bar and heading out, vary little gau usage difference in the small 4 door tracker when being towed, I sleep in my OWN bed, use my shower, and toilet which is worth alot to me and my bride, as far as cost goes if you were to compare the cost of traveling in a RV and driving a car, eating your meals in a resturant and staying in a decent motel every night vary little difference in cost.   Jim

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 05:53:48 AM »
Thanks JHM. Good post. I look at it starting with depreciation costs and operating costs. The way I want to travel the depreciation is high, and the daily costs would be high also because I want to drive a lot. I also want to visit some cities and mountain ranges. All those things together conspire against the use of an RV, at least the way I calculate it.

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2012, 06:49:06 AM »
C.L. Have you considered a nice travel trailer...??? that is what we went with..if I were buying again, I would get one with slideouts...If you move often, it is about as easy to live in a motel...but, I have goldens, and it can be tough to get a motel that allows pets..also sometimes it is tough to get a reasonable room price during high travel seasons...for example, in Cody the motels are 100 plus though much of the year...there is a little RV park that charges $25/night..clean showers, electric..across the street, one can stay at Wal Mar for zip...also there are spots in the Nat. Forest and Blm grounds where one can camp for free or a small fee. ..When late March arrives until late fall, we will probably spend half our time in the travel trailer..I could never afford motels and eating out for that period of time...I paid about 60 bucks for camping/entrance fees for the year in Wy.'s state parks....most are very clean with bathrooms but not electric or showers...I use these as a base for fishing, shooting, etc...In Tx. for example there are many small towns with parks where one can stay for free or a low fee..for 5 to 10 days...very friendly spots there..I prefer the freedom of the travel trailer..I can unhook take my truck and fish or hunt or sightsee and my home is waiting when I return...Right now I would bet you can pick up a used travel trailer for a song if you live near any large cities..the nice thing with a trailer, when you trade trucks,you have a new power system...I wish I could have found something used with slide outs when I bought mine, but it just didn't fall that way..so we will use this one for our trips..buying used, the othe guy takes the loss...another thing I love about my trailer, is I KNOW who slept there last... ;) I can't wait for the next few weeks to pass...we may make a trip to Tx. hunting hogs, but in April we will be heading north for some early trout fishing, then off for a 6 week swing for turkey hunting, in June we have a bear hunting/fishing trip planned to Western Wy. and Idaho..In early July, I have a date with some large trout in Montana..later in July we will spend some time p. dog shooting, gopher shooting and hunting some rockchucks..also brookie fishing will come on strong..company will visit for a couple weeks in Aug., Then fall bird, bear, and fishing will take us on the  road again...and then big game....Next winter we may leave the cold winds of Wy. and spend some winter time fishing in Az. and visiting Tombstone...then trip down to Tx for some hog hunting, before returning to Wyo. and repeating this years progam with some variations I am sure....best of luck what ever you decide ;)

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Re: Traveling by RV
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2012, 07:11:21 AM »
Thanks Wyoming. I am definitely gravitating in that direction. We'll have a pickup truck, so instead of using an RV, trailering may be the best way for us. I like the idea of the pickup because it can be used year-round. And decent trailers are relatively inexpensive.