Thanks guys.I bought some traps from a lady .Her husband died about 3 months ago,she since has been diagnosed with 2 inoperable brain tumors.I need to clean them up some.I got 1/2 dozen Northwoods #2's,!/2 dozen pinch pan Victor 1 1/2's,some 1 1/2 victor longsprings and some #3 and#4 Victors.I hope I payed her way more than there worth.