Author Topic: crossbow Question (Read 2760 times)

ken s · « **on:** August 19, 2004, 02:55:49 PM »

I want to make bolts for my crossbow need some info. Where do i get the metal caps that go on the end of the bolts.The archery shops here don't have them. maybe ? there is something else i can use. i was thinking maybe just use incerts that u use for broadhead's. Don't know if that work's just a idea lol. Im sure u guys can come up with some ideas.let me hear from u all.thanks.
ken s

jh45gun · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2004, 04:07:50 PM »

Try a search on the internet for archery supplies. One that comes to mind is Keystonecountrystore. com another is Eders.com Good luck I would go with the regular nocks and not try to improvise I did that once and it did not work well! Jim

7magWoodsman · « **Reply #2 on:** August 26, 2004, 01:49:43 PM »

I would just go to your local machine shop or have someone you know that works at a factory have a maintenance man whip you some up. Just a thought...

jh45gun · « **Reply #3 on:** August 26, 2004, 02:26:57 PM »

Quote from: 7magWoodsman

I would just go to your local machine shop or have someone you know that works at a factory have a maintenance man whip you some up. Just a thought...

Probably cost more than what you can buy them for. Jim

7magWoodsman · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2004, 04:46:33 AM »

Depends on how well you know em.

I had a maintenance man at a printing company make me a scope base and a folding bipod for a total price of a sandwich from subway and a few parts for the bipod he didn't have around the shop. I ended up spending less than $10.00.

jh45gun · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2004, 08:35:11 AM »

Quote from: 7magWoodsman

Depends on how well you know em.

I had a maintenance man at a printing company make me a scope base and a folding bipod for a total price of a sandwich from subway and a few parts for the bipod he didn't have around the shop. I ended up spending less than $10.00.

Good deal unfortunately not all of us may know some one like that and nocks only cost around 4 to 4.50 a doz so they are not that expensive. I bet he has a archery shop some where close and if not he can always send for some. OF course that drives the cost up but it still should not be that expensive. I tried flattening a regular nock once and the arrow/bolt flew lousy dang near had a dryfire. Nope I would stick with the factory ones then I know they are right.

drags · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2004, 10:50:34 AM »

Ken, I think you can use the same insert that goes in the tip of the bolt, I'm not sure but you can check with an archery shop that knows a little bit about crossbows.

jh45gun · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2004, 06:12:56 PM »

Quote from: drags

Ken, I think you can use the same insert that goes in the tip of the bolt, I'm not sure but you can check with an archery shop that knows a little bit about crossbows.

Might be able to get by with it but if you are going to buy them you can get the right nocks for the same price.

Rick Teal · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2004, 04:35:46 PM »

I looked over some of the bolts I have on hand.

The Horton Lightning strikes have a blunt aluminum end with no hole in the centre, so they're clearly a special device.

The Excalibur bolts I just bought have a plastic device in the end that looks like a tip insert and is threaded - they may be a plastic tip insert. They sell a device ("T" handle) for threading into the base of the bolt for extracting them from targets, so the threading is desirable.

All of my other bolts - ones that I bought from archery shops - have regular aluminum tip inserts in their bases.

So, it seems to me, that you can either order special inserts, and use them, or use tip inserts.

One of the advantages of having a threaded insert in the base is when it comes to re-fletching your bolts. Most fletching tools require that a nock be used to hold the arrow in place while the job is being done. Since bolts (except for the Bear) don't have nocks, these tools can't easily be used for crossbow bolts. With a threaded insert, you can make up an adaptor that allows you to screw a nock into the base of the bolt while you are re-fletching the bolt.

jh45gun · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2004, 08:06:53 PM »

One of the advantages of having a threaded insert in the base is when it comes to re-fletching your bolts. Most fletching tools require that a nock be used to hold the arrow in place while the job is being done. Since bolts (except for the Bear) don't have nocks, these tools can't easily be used for crossbow bolts. With a threaded insert, you can make up an adaptor that allows you to screw a nock into the base of the bolt while you are re-fletching the bolt.[/quote]

Rick I made up some adapters for my fletching tools by getting a regular nock (for arrows ) insert and glueing a nock on it and fileing the insert so it slips into the arrow just enought to grab but you can still pull it out. I use this for bolts that are not nocked yet. For ones that are nocked I got a few field tips for cedar arrows that are not tapered for different sizes and glued arrow nocks on the pointed end of those. I slip the nocked end into these and insert a thin piece of plastic or card stock between the bolt and the field tip to keep it from slipping. These have worked good for me to fletch my bolts with. Jim

TennesseeNuc · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2004, 04:53:19 PM »

ken s,
You can call Ten Point at 1-330-628-9245. They make crossbows, bolts and bolt components. They use a delrin insert for both ends of their bolts. You can get nocks from them.
Best,
TnNuc

GaryL · « **Reply #11 on:** August 31, 2004, 04:50:04 PM »

Ken S you can use the same inserts as the front, that being said if you be using a horton they state use half moon nocks. Any archery shop or sporting goods store that sell archery stuff should have butt caps. :wink:

XCOP · « **Reply #12 on:** August 31, 2004, 06:33:10 PM »

When making arrows for my Excalibur, I just use the same inserts, for and aft. That will give you a flat end cap. If you need half moon style, you can get them from www.Keystonecountrystore.com

Book · « **Reply #13 on:** September 04, 2004, 09:13:56 PM »

I agree with XCOP, I use an Excalibur and use a regular insert at both ends. It has never been a problem, and I like to be able to use the screw in arrow puller when shooting targets especially with broadheads. Thanks Book

Digger · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2004, 03:06:49 AM »

All Excaliber bolts come with the same insert for and aft for a couple of reasons, much easier to extract from a target ( especially a 3D target) and you don't have to search around for aflat or moon nock. as for fletching your bolts I found that an Arizona E-Z fletcher was the best and fastest. You can fletch all three vanes at once and you don't need a nock on the end of you bolt.The 4 degree off set is best for Excal xbow bolts.

http://www.ezfletch.com/

Digger

dwhas3 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 06, 2004, 06:11:29 AM »

what's the difference between helical and offset?
the 4 deggre offset is for aluminum bolts. will it also do carbon?
thanks, d
"dw"

Digger · « **Reply #16 on:** September 06, 2004, 01:36:04 PM »

The Arizona E-Z fletcher comes in 2 sizes the carbon fletcher which does carbon arrows that come in small diameters and the aluminum one for the larger diameter arrows and bolts in the 20xx and up. Your carbon bolts for the crossbow are 22xx and will fit the aluminum fletcher but ar too large a diameter for the carbon fletcher.
The off set is not as radical a twist of the vane as helical. I use the 4degree offset in my E-Z fletcher for bolts on my Excaliburs.

Digger