Author Topic: Is this typical??? (Read 701 times)

Natman · « **on:** September 06, 2004, 02:45:41 PM »

I've got a 45-70 Handi on the SB2 frame and until I get my dies and powders I have been using Winchester 300 grain hoolow points from the factory..I'm getting very good groups out to 200 yards with this load but after 1 shot there is a lot of unburnt powder..Is this due to the fact of the short 22inch barrell or some other problem? I have it sighted in 4 inches high at 100 yards and at 200 I can hold pretty well dead on an empty folgers coffee can and rip it in half..I love these large caliber guns..So cool and so interesting to see the look on peoples faces when you light a round.. :gun4:

Wlscott · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2004, 02:59:19 PM »

Nat, I have a 45-70 barrel on my Ultra. I loaded 300 grain HP's and am now loading 405 grain cast bullets. No matter what powder I tried, I still had unburned powder in the barrel. I think it's just a trait typical to the 45-70.

Don't worry too much about it. Just enjoy that big bore :grin:

handirifle · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2004, 08:11:12 PM »

nat
wait till you use black powder. Then the smokeless residue will look clean by comparison. :grin:

Joel · « **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2004, 05:04:14 AM »

I've been reloading the 300's with IMR 4198 for years without seeing any unburnt powder residue. Accuracy has been outstanding. I know some of the people that use Re7 with the lighter 300 gr bullets have mentioned that problem; but it doesn't seem to have any affect on anything. I'm using Re7 with the 400 gr FP's right now, and haven't noticed unburnt residue in mine, although the guy who gave me the load I"m using said he had some; but the load was extremely accurate. It is that. Go figure.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2004, 05:11:09 AM »

Joel:

Try some H4198...out of my 18-1/2" Marlin no extra burnt powder left in...I use a Lee factory crimp die...and a heavy crimp with these...

Mac

ajj · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2004, 07:32:28 AM »

Has nothing to do with barrel length. This cartridge shoots well with several powders which just never get into the pressure range where they burn every granual. Sometimes increasing the load slightly reduces unburned grains. Sometimes it's just part of the equation.

safetysheriff · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2004, 10:37:47 AM »

you are using a relatively un-restricted form of a cartridge -- the straight-walled type -- which is probably the biggest factor in the unburnt powder. this also is the probable explanation for Mac' getting better results with a Heavy crimp....the brief restriction of the powder burning behind a bullet that has a lot of resistance holding it in place.

a hotter primer, working up the load as is needed, may also help cut back on the residue.

take care.

Natman · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2004, 02:48:12 PM »

Thanks for the info guys..I plan on using this Handi for plinking and deer or boar hunting..My dad is looking to buy one soon also..We will be loading our own so we will have plenty of time to experiment..I may go to the round or flat nose instead of the hollow points..Brother-in-law shot a coyote with mine monday at 75 yards and man what a hole on exit...Interesting to see a yote do a flip in mid air and land facing the other way...