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John 16:3
« on: August 29, 2004, 07:06:07 AM »
John Kerry's Favorite Bible Verse:
John 16:3  
 
Netlore Archive:  According to this forwarded email, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry declared his favorite Bible verse to be John 16:3  

Description:  Email hoax
Circulating since:  Aug. 2004 (Kerry version)
Status:  False
Analysis:  See below  
 


Email example contributed by M.B.K., 18 August 2004:

Subject: Kerry and the Bible

This guy is going to implode!

Thought you might find this interesting...

HMMMMMM!!!!!!

The Lord has a way of revealing those of us who really know him, and thosethat don't! Think about it! Kerry gave a big speech last week about howhis faith is so "important" to him. In this attempt to convince theAmerican people that we should consider him for president, he announced thathis favorite Bible verse is John 16:3. Of course the speech writer meantJohn 3:16, but nobody in the Kerry camp was familiar enough with scriptureto catch the error. And do you know what John 16:3 says?

John 16:3 says; "They will do such things because they have not known theFather or me."
 


Comments:  False. John Kerry never said his favorite Bible verse is John 16:3. Neither did G.W. Bush, who was accused of saying the same thing a few months earlier. Nor did Al Gore, who purportedly said it in 1999.

G.W. Bush's father, President George H.W. Bush, did make precisely this blunder during a speech before a religious broadcasters' conference in 1990, according to newspaper columnist Cal Thomas, who witnessed the event.


http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_kerry_john_3_16.htm
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John 16:3
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2004, 09:05:30 AM »
:-D Did you read that on the net?  :P You told me not to believe ANYthing I read on the net :eek:  :D
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2004, 10:28:11 AM »
Good point, Tubby, but I also poked around enough to see the same blunder attributed to George Bush and Al Gore. When you see the same story told about several different people, it's pretty safe to conclude that the most recent one is false.

Btw, my favorite Bible verse, especially in this context, is John 11:35.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2004, 10:55:17 AM »
Quote from: Leftoverdj
Good point, Tubby, but I also poked around enough to see the same blunder attributed to George Bush and Al Gore. When you see the same story told about several different people, it's pretty safe to conclude that the most recent one is false.

Btw, my favorite Bible verse, especially in this context, is John 11:35.


Yessir, I always poke around enough before I print one of my conclusions :wink:
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John 16:3
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2004, 09:10:27 AM »
Quote from: Leftoverdj


Btw, my favorite Bible verse, especially in this context, is John 11:35.


  That's a good verse DJ, I'll bet He weeps alot these days.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2004, 04:04:03 PM »
In any case, Kerry's ignorance of the Scriptures is patently evident; especially when he says things like " I don't wear my religion on my sleeve!"

     Biblical Christians will understand just what I mean.

 If one is a REAL Christian, it should be one of their chief identifying factors!
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2004, 04:38:34 PM »
Quote from: ironglow
In any case, Kerry's ignorance of the Scriptures is patently evident; especially when he says things like " I don't wear my religion on my sleeve!"

     Biblical Christians will understand just what I mean.

 If one is a REAL Christian, it should be one of their chief identifying factors!


Amen brother!   LAUS DEO
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2004, 04:51:07 PM »
GW isn't ashamed of God. Kerry says, I'm against abortion, but I support a womans right to kill. He's a real piece of work. POWDERMAN.  :(  :(  :(  :(
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2004, 04:54:36 PM »
Matthew 6:5
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2004, 12:36:15 AM »
Quote from: Leftoverdj
Matthew 6:5


6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

  That's because prayer is personal. Public prayer for the sake of public prayer is mostly ceremonial.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2004, 12:38:39 AM »
Sorry, double post :shock:
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2004, 02:16:41 AM »
Lefty says Matt 6:5...

    Again; I say only a BELIEVER can understand The Scriptures!
  Proof here is the verse ( Matt6:5 ) is being used out of context and content...

    I Cor 2:14.......and for context, read vs. 11-16...

    2 Tim 3:16,17...one can read the entire chapter for context...
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2004, 04:54:42 AM »
Ironglow,  Matthew 6:5 comes directly from Jesus.  That would seem to me to have considerably more weight than what Paul or Timothy had to say on the matter. Might seem that way to John Kerry, too.

But opinions can differ on religious matters.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2004, 03:21:37 PM »
Lefty;
 
   Don't make yourself to appear that way...I didn't say that Matthew 6:5 was written wrong.....I said that you read it wrong...big difference!
 
    2 timothy 3:16 " ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God...."

   If you and Hanoi John trying to "parse" the word of God, you both would be exhibiting  total misunderstanding of Scriptures, much  as total athiests are unable to fathom even the simplest teachings of Scripture.

   Remember; the word of God is "spiritually discerned"; if one has not the indwelling Holy Spirit, he CANNOT understand ....

    Suggestion: Read John3:16 and take it's advice.....
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2004, 04:46:09 PM »
IRONGLOW. Agreed Sir. POWDERMAN.  :D  :D  :-)  :-)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2004, 03:21:57 PM »
ironglow,

It seems to me that I Cor 2:14 says it all to those that have the discernment.  
 :D   :lol:    :wink:
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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2004, 03:01:54 AM »
Powderman, Major;

   AAAMMMEEENNNN
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2004, 01:25:14 PM »
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...for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men....

 :?
They may talk of a "New Order" in the  world, but what they have in mind is only a revival of the oldest and worst tyranny.   No liberty, no religion, no hope.   It is an unholy alliance of power and pelf to dominate and to enslave the human race.

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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2004, 05:35:25 PM »
FWEIDNER. That applies to hanoi john for sure. I truly believe that president Bush is sincere when he prays in public, sort of like trying to lead our nation back to being, ONE NATION UNDER GOD. POWDERMAN.  :D  :D  :D  :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2004, 01:19:17 PM »
Ditto; powderman
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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2004, 03:47:07 PM »
I agree too powderman.   I donÂ’t see Bush praying in public for his own edification, but as an example to lead others back to the correct path.
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