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« on: July 21, 2004, 12:05:36 PM »
Wondering if anyone here uses treestands for coyote hunting?  Ive got an Ole Man Grand Multi-vision climber, and was wondering if anyone has strtegys using treestands.  I use a boom box for calling.  So would a good strategy be to lower my boom box to the bottom of the tree once in place, or would I do fine to leve it with me up in the stand?  Minimum height to set at?  Any other ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2004, 07:01:47 PM »
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I have used wind mills and climbed trees, Hid on rock bluffs, It seems to me that they normaly look along the ground more than up. When i was about 14 years old i had told my Dad that i could call coyotes with my mouth and he almost busted a gut laughing at me, Well one day we were checking some cows and was heading to the wind mill and i told him to stop and be real quite and i would show him i could call a coyote, so when he quit laughing i got out and went to the wind mill and got on top of the platform and started calling. It wasn't long and here came a yote in, and he came all the way to the base of the mill. So in answer to the question,
They don't seem to look up very much. I some times use a decoy of some kind to get their attention. Boy i'm going on and on, Sorry about the long winded speech, You guys have a good day and stay safe
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2004, 07:33:14 PM »
It may be worth checking with your states DNR or Conservation dept on this one.
Is ILLEGAL in my state to hunt predators from a tree stand with an exception being made for deer hunters possesing a deer permit during the gun season.

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2004, 12:45:33 PM »
Ive been through the rules, but have just contacted my Fish and Game department.  As far as I can tell they are legal for use.
I figgure just like oso45-70 does.  Most 4 legged game animals spend most of their lives on the ground and have to worry only about ground based threats (with the exception of the occasional deer who might survive a few encounters with treestand hunters and he learns.)  Since they have only to worry about whats on the ground I figgure that a treestand, while not making them completely un-aware of your presence, will confuse them enough to allow for that split second that you would probably not have while on the ground.  I just need to figure out if I should just keep the boom box up in the tree with me (which might make the sound travel farther....a plus,) or lower it below.  Im just worried that if the boom box is with me it might draw their attention where it normaly does not go....up.  But again it might confuse them long enough....see thats why Im asking  :) .
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2004, 05:27:18 PM »
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I think you might be better off leaving your Boom box in a bush or hidden on the groung. I use a woozle like affaire with a string on it to jiggle and it works real good. What it is made of ie a little peice of hide and a tail and it looks like a cross between a skunk ans a coon, Its hooked to a automatic fishing reel with a thin leader and i just twitch it a little as i call.
Works good for me. I do use a fox pro some of the time. It has a remote speaker. It all depends on what the situation is at the time. Its easy to get more junk than you can haul around. I look like a moving van some times.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2004, 09:48:20 AM »
Actually Chris Ill probably get there before you.  My vacation is coming up end of next week and I plan on doing some slaying (assuming the whole week does not turn into a washout.....a sadly possible reality.)  Ill try with the boom box in the stand first.  If I get busted a time or two maybe Ill rethink.  If I lower it down Ive only got about 30 seconds to a minute of dead air on the tape before the calling starts, so Id have to work quick.  Well see I guess.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2004, 12:08:14 PM »
I decided to take my dog for a walk this afternoon, it was about 70 degrees, a nice cool day. I was planning to hunt on saturday am because it was going to be cool..about 50 degrees, so I was going to check out the field/woods that I usually hunt coyotes. I ALWAYS take my 223 NEF when I walk the dog on our farm. You never know when you might see a coyote.  Well...guess what...as I approached a slight hill just before the area where I have a elevated tree stand (that I also use for deer hunt), I alway approach this area slowly.....tell the dog (yellow lab) to stay....while I slowly peek over the hill I saw mr coyote mousing.....to make a long story short....I put a 55gr Hornaday SP right between his eyes...at 80 yards...lucky shot.....I love it....

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2004, 05:37:41 PM »
i have successfully shot foxes while in a treestand. they will walk right up to a caller on a bright night. i like going out when there is a full moon and shoot them  with #4 buck or a .22. you almost always have to use iron sights. i have shot a few coyotes and even a coon or 2 that way. my treestand is on the fence row overlooking a field so there is tons of light. thats just what has worked for my. it should work for you since we're from the same region hunting the same animal.

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2004, 04:31:35 AM »
Sometimes I use a latter stand or climber, using a electronic caller with long wires for the two speakers, this method works great, keeps your human scent off the ground, i have shot many coyotes this way, if they are hungry they come in hard, I can control both speakers,whatever side I see the yotes,I lure them from one speaker to another, sometimes I use mono-filament line to run to a bush where the speaker is, and when I locate a yote or yote's coming in, I will pull on the string and shake the bush, this really gets them;) bye this time, there time is over. The setup must be right, i like to use a ridge so I can spot them coming to me from any angle, good to have some open areas for the shot, I cut away any brush that can cause any problems. I find the near the end of winter is very productive. Coyotes are very hungry at this time, very aggressive as well. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2004, 08:48:17 AM »
I have been using this method for years and not only can you see them coming in better, your scent is elevated above them to some degree. The come in looking on the ground not up in the air. Unless they have been spooked from above before.

I have the same stand that you are referring to and it works great. I keep the speaker on the ground out in front of me.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2004, 11:59:18 AM »
Thanks guys.  Im probably gonna give this set-up a try next week when I go on vacation.  Ill rig up a rope to lower the boom box to the ground.  Im also gonna give the new 12ga loads I bought a try.......Federal classics 3" Mag with 41 pellets of #4 buck.  Probably gonna hurt, but that whats so fun about the 12 ga  :-D .
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2004, 08:48:54 PM »
Calling yotes from a treestand is a good way to do it, gives you good visiability.  Also keep your boom box in the stand with you so you can control the volumn.  If you start off with high volumn you'll scare anything close and they will alert anything else in the area.  Start off with a soft volumn for 2 to 3 minutes then turn it off.  After 8 to 10 minutes turn it back on louder, for 2 to 3 minutes then off.  Keep this cycle up till you get a response, usually within 20 to 30 minutes.  And cayotes do look up into trees, especially in area where deer hunters use tree stands.  

One of my favorite NRA hunting videos is of the Druery brothers shooting cayotes from tree stands.  Often times the cayote never has an idea they are around.  But a few times the yote looks up right at them.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2004, 06:30:13 PM »
cknight98:
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...electronic calls are illegal in TN.

In case you don't know by now, here's some good info
from the 2004 Tennessee Hunting & Trapping Guide, page 53:
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It is legal to use an electronic call for all game
species except for fox, wild turkey, and waterfowl.

Emphasis is mine :grin:
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2004, 06:57:04 PM »
Lancel,
I also live on the Ky/Tn border...what counties are you from???
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2004, 08:14:59 PM »
Montgomery on the Tennessee side near Fort Campbell.  The border is about 1/4 mile from me. :D

Unfortunately Fort Campbell doesn't permit electronic calls and you can't get an area assignment just to hunt coyote.

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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2004, 03:28:05 PM »
Lancel,
I live a little farther east from you as you live east from Land Between the Lakes :grin: Not too far.

Ever hunted Fallow Deer in LBL?

The Bob Cat population is extremely high in your area isn't it? Good Luck come mid-November. :grin:
 
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2004, 07:17:37 PM »
7magWoodsman:
Haven't hunted in LBL.  Mostly hunt in southern Montgomery Co.

I occasionally hunt Fort Campbell but the area assignment routine is problematic: sometimes having to take a different area than the one scouted due to troop training.

BTW you've got PM.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2004, 07:03:47 PM »
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...but what do you think?

I think that ever since hunting regulations went from a few pages to a book, they make my head hurt.  I have to download them from the Tennessee web site and use the search function to try to unsnarl things.

In the case you describe, it's like squirrel hunting with a .22. There's no proof that you'd shoot a deer out of season with that .22 unless you actually do it.  I think as long as you present yourself as a safe and law-abiding hunter, the game warden wouldn't doubt your word that you are hunting coyotes and not foxes.  

He may however have doubts if you're wearing a red coat and shouting "tally-ho" to your hounds.:)

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2004, 07:39:28 PM »
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BTW you've got PM.

Please try to resend, I never received it...I have heard of a couple people haveing troubles with the PM to......7mag
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2004, 08:46:04 PM »
Well I've tried the PM twice more but it's not showing up in my "sent" folder.
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Nothing big, here's the essence:

Before it went away, I saw your post on being in Logan(?)-Simpson county area. Thought that maybe the post left because we got off topic so I used PM to give you more info:

Although I'm in Clarksville now, my early years were in east Tennesee - Knoxville, Oak Ridge, etc.  Many years and places later, my wife and I retired from the Army here.

Good luck and good hunting on your side of the border!
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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2004, 05:20:49 AM »
Chris
I think this depends on what you dont get caught with.  :-D

Seriously, Lancel hit the nail on the head here.
The hunter is expected to follow the regulations of the hunt to include firearm, clothing, call's, and what is in season.
Any deviation is "Bad Ethic's" to what we consider to be fair chase. Word of deviation's usually get out quickly and often from an unexpected sorce
Such as from a friends friend.

I have never owned an electronic caller but am thinking about getting one.
Perhaps a Foxpro.  :-D