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Offline HuntingGuy

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« on: November 23, 2005, 12:28:04 PM »
Hi Folks,

I am new to Muzzleloaders, and T/C.  I am looking to buy myself a nice gun for Christmas, and decided on the T/C Omega with the thumbhole stock, stainless bbl, and Hardwoods.  http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7016029

Anyways, does anyone have experience with T/C and.or this gun?   :wink:   It looks like a good one, but like I said, I have never shot a muzzleloader before so I thought I would take it to the board before making a purchase.

Thanks for everyone's help!   :D
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2005, 01:10:43 PM »
I've got the stainless/laminate thumbhole version. It's a good gun but seems to be a little picky about loads. Once you find a good load though you'll love it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2005, 01:15:44 PM »
What load would you recommend, as well as a good bullet for deer hunting?  Thanks for the heads up.
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2005, 01:58:24 PM »
So far mine likes 100 gr of Triple Seven loose and a 245 gr Barnes Spitfire. Also 100 gr Triple Seven loose and a 200 gr Shockwave though it's not as accurate. The 250 shockwaves will shoot if I swap sabots for a MMP HPH 24. So far thats all I've found to shoot well.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2005, 03:22:30 PM »
My stainless Omega does not like Triple Seven (makes a terrible crud ring that makes a second shot impossible without major scrubbing of the bore). I had real good luck with Pyrodex 80-90gr. and 295gr. and 348gr. Powerbelts. Also shoots 300gr. SST if you change to a thinner sabot. Mine is difficult to load most sabot bullet combinations as they are sold other than the Powerbelts. I had great results with 90gr. of Black Mag'3 and 300gr. bullets also. I have not shot a lot of lighter bullets as I mostly elk hunt and lighter bullets are not what I prefer for the bigger "deer". I am just starting to evaluate Goex Pinnacle fffg which looks promising like the Black Mag'3 both are ascorbic acid based powders which I like as they are less corrosive and easier to clean between shots (actually can shoot multiple shots without a swab between shots).
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2005, 04:00:24 AM »
A guy I know has a  omega ,he did have some problems at first trying to get a good groupe out of the rifle. I gave him some hornady xtp in 240 grain (not the mag: xtp)and the gun started to come together
He also tried some of my buffalo 375 grain SSB boattails over pyrodex select and could not be more happy with the group
The buffalo SSB are 451 diameter ,but they do mic: up to 449. making them a dream to load and shoot.I use the 50 cal. SSB  in my 54 cal. thunderhawk and switch the plastic  sabot to harvester red sabot.
I have to say over 85 grains of 3f real black powder the gun shoots excellent at the 100 yard target :D
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2005, 04:44:06 AM »
I have the laminated thumbhole/stainless fluted barrel version and have found it to be a great rifle, after I found a load combo that worked.
I eventually went with a .44 caliber bullet/ sabot (green sabot), and found it much easier to load (my theory being that the extra thickness from the .44 cal plastic sabot had more give to it). I use a 300 grain XTP over 100 grains of loose Pyrodex. I have found I can load two or three shots with this combo without cleaning, and it is very accurate in this gun. :D
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2005, 04:06:18 PM »
i find out of my rifle when i backed my load down to 100gr of triple seven pellets and use 340gr dead center bullets i get the best grouping at 100yds
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2005, 10:48:14 PM »
I use two 50/50 Pyrodex pellets and a 295 grain Power Belt. My rifle is also picky about loads, but once you find one, it's the best.
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2005, 04:53:21 AM »
My Omega puts 250 gr. Shockwaves in a 1" group at 100 yards with 150 grains (3 pellets) of Triple 7. Havent tried any other load combo yet, but would like to see if I could improve on that any.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2005, 06:01:37 AM »
My Z5 liked 120 ffg AP or 3 777 pellets, 348 grain Powerbelts.........
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2005, 03:32:23 AM »
You'll find that every gun is different, even the same make and model will very...

My Omega works great with 2 - 50 gr pellets of Triple Seven behind a 250 gr TC Shockwave... but this same load may not work in the next Omega...

Good Luck...
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2005, 04:44:28 PM »
I have the thumbhole version.  I shoot 110 gr 777 under a 200gr Shockwave, and have taken deer to a longer range than you probably are prepared to practice for.  Great gun.
   I did, however, have to get the .25 ACP conversion from Precision Rifle.  Without it, the crud ring made the fun unshootable with 777.  BlackMag3 was not available when I got the gun; maybe using BM3 would make it shootable with 209s.
   Also, as supplied, the point-of-impact shifted if I took the action out of the stock for thorough cleaning.  I had to install aluminum pillars and resin-bed the action (and free-float the barrel).  After these modifications, the gun became an unbelievable tack-driver!
   The gun was fairly picky with loads.  It generally shot the 200-250 gr Shockwaves well under 110 gr powder though.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2005, 04:47:46 PM »
I have the thumbhole version.  I shoot 110 gr 777 under a 200gr Shockwave, and have taken deer to a longer range than you probably are prepared to practice for.  Great gun.
   I did, however, have to get the .25 ACP conversion from Precision Rifle.  Without it, the crud ring made the fun unshootable with 777.  BlackMag3 was not available when I got the gun; maybe using BM3 would make it shootable with 209s.
   Also, as supplied, the point-of-impact shifted if I took the action out of the stock for thorough cleaning.  I had to install aluminum pillars and resin-bed the action (and free-float the barrel).  After these modifications, the gun became an unbelievable tack-driver!
   The gun was fairly picky with loads.  It generally shot the 200-250 gr Shockwaves well under 110 gr powder though.
   As an addendum, I find the gun great for prone and bench shooting.  However, the thumbhole stock is less than ideal for kneeling and offhand shooting; I tend to get my face too close to the scope and bean myself on the forehead.  It just feels ungangly offhand.
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