Author Topic: New Remington 504 bolt gun (Read 1692 times)

Krag · « **on:** July 18, 2004, 06:58:24 AM »

I have not searched the whole forum, but have looked some, and I see nothing about the new Remington bolt action 504 22 lr rifle. Anyone out there got one? I am seeking input, as I am thinking of buying one.

Thanks for any info you can offer.

Krag

paperpuncher · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2004, 10:21:22 AM »

Krag,

Most of the posts that I have read say it has the look and feel of a qualtiy .22RF, but is somewhat overpriced. Also, so far the opinion is that it doesn't offer the accuracy you would expect for that price.

I was considering getting one until I started to read some of the comments. Instead, I bought a CZ 452 Varminter (at almost 1/2 the price) and am very pleased with it. Shoots 0.4" 5-shot groups at 50 yds and with a very simple trigger modification (changed the spring), I have an 8 oz trigger with no creep. I'm sold on the CZ's. :-)

PaperPuncher

gunnut69 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2004, 07:34:45 PM »

The 504's are way overpriced. The stocks are as plain as it is possible to get and their accuracy(just a small sample of 3 rifles) was lacking. All were sondly out shot by nearly any good CZ.. The 504 could and should have been the real deal but it didn't make the grade.. The 540/541's were better rifles.

crazyjjk · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2004, 02:56:40 AM »

Everything I have read about them says the same. Decent look and feel but failing in the accuracy department with only a small percentage of them shooting the way a higher priced rifle should.>John

TC Shooter · « **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2004, 06:07:14 AM »

From what I have read the 504 was designed to be very inexpensive to produce as compared to the 541 , yet Remington expects even more $$$$ for the 504.

The best example I can think of is the bolt design - the 541 came with multiple locking lugs on the bolt where as the 504 locks up with a single lug on the bolt handle used in the less expensive 22s like Marlin or Savage.

I did like others and went with the CZ - more than satisfied!

bchannell · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2004, 05:48:06 PM »

I just thought I'd add an update to this post for all who are thinking of buying a 504. I've had one now for several months and have begun to know it pretty well. I started out with a bad scope mounted on it and suspicioned the rifle as being inaccurate. That definitely was not the case at all. I have a Kimber Hunter and borrowed a CZ 452 varmint from my neighbor and put all three through their paces. The Kimber is a known quantity, it shoots like a laser and feels like the expensive heirloom it is. To make a long story short, the 504 kept pace with the Kimber all day long and out shot the CZ every way from Sunday. The CZ had ever advantage, it was well broken in, had a more powerful scope and a fantastic trigger job. Also I knew the ammo the CZ and Kimber liked best. In every case the 504 would equal or better the Kimber groups and beat the CZ. Not one single ammo out of probably 10 brands, did the CZ come out on top of either of the Kimber or 504. The trigger on the 504 is top notch, easily as good as the Kimber. Feeding and functioning were perfect.
About the only complaint I can possibly lodge against the 504 is the butt of the rifle is very small from top to bottom. It's a good 3/4"-1" smaller than the Kimber, it even looks funny, but I can't say I noticed it shooting the rifle and I can't really say that is caused any problems, it just looks tiny. The stock is well proportioned in all other aspects, and far nicer than the CZ stock. But the Kimber stock is perfection personified and no 504 will ever top it in that category.
I just thought with all the bad press about the 504l, I'd post my results. I must admit the thing seems overpriced, but when it shoots as well as it does, I can't really argue with it. It costs around twice what the CZ does and shoots considerably smaller groups, so I guess it's worth it. I know one thing, I haven't any plans on getting rid of it anytime soon. If I had to pick one between the Kimber or the 504, it would be darn close. I think I'd keep the Kimber, but I wounldn't be upset to keep either one.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2004, 12:35:23 PM »

As a left hand shooter, i've always had a problem getting a bolt action left hand 22 lr that shot really well, and from surfing the net, i see it's still a problem.

I ended up building my own left hand 22 lr from Remington parts, and i built my self a "left hand" 541-S. It was very easy to do when i did it, as all the parts could be easily had, i'm not sure what a left hand shooter would do today to get a really accurate left hand bolt action 22 lr rifle.

I just love my left hand Remington 541-S, as it is very accurate and doesn't weigh a lot. I've shot a ton of spruce grouse, ptarmigan, and rabbits ect.. with it.

Drilling Man

bchannell · « **Reply #7 on:** September 27, 2004, 09:21:03 AM »

Just thought I'd update this thread about the .22 rifles, especially the 504. Since the first go around with the Kimber Hunter, CZ Varmint, and 504, I've done some more testing. Here are the thoughts.
The Kimber Hunter has, since new, not fed and ejected properly. This seems to be a common complaint among owners. Mine has gotten progressively worse. It mangles ammo left in the clip as it feeds, and it looks bad enough to compromise accuracy. Now the rifle is shooting slightly over 3/4" at 50 yards, as compared to it's normal 3/8" groups. This is very frustrating for a $700 rifle. If you read the posts, or my emails responses from Kimber, they're hardly interested. More in a minute.

The Remmy 504 is still shooting like a champ. I traded it to my neighbor in a deal that netted me the CZ Varmint he had. With a little bedding of the barrel, the Varmint is an amazingly accurate rifle. I'm really impressed with this rifle, and how it balances. Since we pretty much have communal guns, I still shoot it a lot. I topped it with a Weaver 2-7 rimfire scope which seems to look just right.

I was so impressed with the CZ Varmint that I bought a CZ American with some of the proceeds from the Kimber trade. Without touching the bedding at all, and only doing a trigger job, this rifle will cut 3/8" groups at 50 yards easily. It also doesn't hurt that it has exceptional wood on it. I like the fit and feel better than the Kimber. Both of these CZs feed and function without hesitation, a nice change from the Kimber. I've not seen a .22 yet that will best this American by much, it's quickly becoming my favorite .22 rilfe.

I'll be working on the Kimber feeding/ejecting problems in the future, and I hope things work out, but as of now I'm pretty disappointed with Kimber. If you hop over the rimfirecentral.com and read up on the problems, you'll see what I've been experiencing, and it ain't fun.

SBF · « **Reply #8 on:** September 27, 2004, 10:42:42 AM »

Slightly OT but I have a buddy who bought a Kimber Semi-auto pistol, the one that looks and feels identical to their .45's, and had nothing but problems with it. It went back and forth to Kimber 3 times before the problem was corrected. Great guns but poor customer service. :roll:

Thanks for the write-ups, you seem to have done a through job testing these rifles. :agree: