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Offline oscar1975

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About 458 Lott
« on: August 08, 2008, 09:17:44 PM »
Hello my name is Oscar, I am from Spain and found the pleasant surprise of this forum. Well the question is who want to buy a 458-calibre rifle in Ceska Lott and I would like to hear your views on gun and caliber, especially the caliber (down, forcefulness).

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Oscar.
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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2008, 11:02:36 PM »
Buenos dias Oscar,

Welcome to the forum.

I'm thinking Ceska may be what we know as CZ?

If so, I have a CZ 550 Safari Magnum in 458 Lott that I'm quite happy with.  It's heavy as pretty much any rifle in this caliber will be.  In any case, if it were too light, the recoil would be painful.  It's also accurate.

A frequent complaint about CZ rifles in heavy recoiling cartridges is a tendency for the stock to split.  The newer ones have cross bolts which should prevent this problem.  I shot mine for about 100 rounds before having it glass bedded (another way to prevent the problem) and have had no problems with it.

The CZ 550 has a nice cushy recoil pad which makes shooting it off the bench fairly comfortable.
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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 12:48:52 AM »
You mean that he can split the butt to Cz? go is a fairly serious problem. Where can solve this problem? I suppose that what a good dealer can fix.Gracias Grumulkin, by the way, excellent grouping.

A greeting and happy,

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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2008, 03:18:50 AM »
The easy ways to prevent a split stock are:

1.  Get one of the newer models that has cross bolts.
2.  If it doesn't have cross bolts, take it to a gunsmith who can install cross bolts.
3.  Have a gunsmith do a good glass bedding job.  This is what my gunsmith did and he said a good glass bedding job worked as well as cross bolts.
4.  You could have a composite aftermarket stock installed.  This would be the most expensive way to go.
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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2008, 03:39:53 AM »
Thank you, I have thought about buying the gun in some time, because I gradually saving money I need. I hope that by then this problem will be solved. Again thanks for your answers,

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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2008, 01:32:05 AM »
I own the CZ 550 American Safari Mag. 458 Lott. That rifle is balanced. Very accurate. doesn't kick real bad.

I have shot it threw 6" of OAK with a soft point and it kept on going.
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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2008, 02:41:39 AM »
Quote from: jro45 on August 10, 2008, 01:32:05 AM
I own the CZ 550 American Safari Mag. 458 Lott. That rifle is balanced. Very accurate. doesn't kick real bad.

I have shot it threw 6" of OAK with a soft point and it kept on going.

Thanks for your answer, I am saving money little by little, to see if what I have in a while and I am counting as I go with the rifle.

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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2008, 09:39:52 PM »
Hola,

tambien tengo yo el CZ 550 American safari en .458 lott.  Si tenia el problema con la madera, se me rompio.  Pero lo voy a mandar a CZ_USA, y ellos me dijieron que iban a arreglarlo todo.  Vamos a ver lo que sale.  Pero el mio ya tiene como 4 o 5 anios, los rifles nuevos de CZ ya son atornillados para que no se rompe. 

Pa que lo va a usar?  Si tiene mucho poder.  Creo que algo tan poderoso solo serria necesario en Africa, pero no es solo para cazar.  El disparar tambien esta bien divertido, claro que los amigos lo van a querer disparar. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2008, 04:20:22 AM »
Hello corbanzo:
  I want the rifle first and foremost by having. I have no other hobbies, so I think that is going to be a good expenditure. The truth is that I will not go to Africa to hunt, but just pleased to shoot something really powerful, and it's worth.

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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2008, 11:43:59 PM »
Just took the .458 out for the first time since it has had the muzzle brake on it... and holy crap what a difference.  I am not kidding you, this is a 50% reduction muzzle brake.  Put on by the fine gentleman at wild west guns in anchorage.  The large ports make it so it doesn't make your ears implode either. 

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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 06:20:54 AM »
Hello corbanzo, the problem of brakes mouth is precisely that which greatly increases the detonation with consequent damage to the ears.

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 08:26:15 AM »
Good ear muffs solve all of that problem.  The larger ports on this one cut down quite a bit on the blast and boom from the brake.  I went out and put about 35 rounds through it yesterday, and loved it 100%.  The less hurt in the shoulder definitely outweighed the extra noise. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 09:50:03 AM »
I think it will leave the day that I have, without brake mouth because I can not allow to spend more money. Unless you want to be hung by my wife jajaja. As you can endure the setback ...

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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2008, 12:20:41 PM »
Quote from: corbanzo on August 10, 2008, 09:39:52 PM
Creo que algo tan poderoso solo serria necesario en Africa, pero no es solo para cazar.

Los conejos in Ohio son muy fuertes.  Pues, uso el 458 Lott para cazar conejos.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2008, 12:45:37 PM »
In addition grumulkin, destroying at least rabbit who shot it squarely hits a 12-gauge shotgun from

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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2008, 07:59:30 AM »
Yeah, we have some pretty damn fierce squirrels up here. 

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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2008, 11:03:47 AM »
Oops, half squirrel Do you have hunted with 458 Lott? But if it costs a lot of that caliber bullet.

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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2008, 01:46:55 PM »
$4.00/cartridge here in the US for 458 lott if you buy factory.  Costs me about $0.75 a bullet reloading it, so not all too bad. 
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Re: About 458 Lott
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2008, 10:12:56 PM »
I need to think about doing during recharge. Here in Spain there is a need to do a course and then apply for approval. It is more complicated than in your country, but I can see that it is worth.

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