Thanks for the compliment, Fred. :grin: Head and neck shots are a choice I only take when there's no shot like a good boiler room hit and they're close. Hit em in the heart/lung area and they are gonna die, usually on the spot or within 125yds max if they're on the run. The head and neck offer the smallest of targets when it comes to deer/elk. I've killed just 2 elk with neck shots and that was because they were standing in timber and all I could see was the head/neck, and I was close. All the rest, 30+ have been placed in the heart/lung area. An entrance wound from an unexpanded .45-70 is already as big as an expanded .30 cal bullet, and the .45-70 is gonna get a heck of lot bigger on the way out. That's why I don't particularly want to use lead, they tend to make same size holes going in and out, don't expand unless they hit solid bone and I prefer to eat my game as to blow it up when taking out a shoulder. I guess that's just me, though.... :wink: