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« on: October 25, 2004, 03:25:16 AM »
Hey all-

Have been a rifle shooter all my life and considering getting into crossbow.  I have been looking at that Parker 150lb Safari-Magnum Crossbow with Synthetic Camo Stock, http://www.parkerbows.com/safarimagnum.html#

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Is this a good choice for my first bow?  Also, what accessories will I want to purchase for it?  What kind of broadheads do you guys like?

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What kind of scopes do you use?  Does Bushnell or Leupold happen to make anything in the line for crossbows?

Thanks!  HuntingGuy
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2004, 04:38:37 AM »
Parker makes a nice xbow but I prefer an Excalibur.They make a terrific recurve hunting xbow from 150lb draw to a a 225 lb xbow, with speeds of 285- 350 fps. They also have all the accesseries you'll want for your xbow
Archers Nook will deliver Your xbow anywhere in North America. Free delivery and no taxes if you sont live in Ontario. Check them out, On our forum http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1 no one has said a bad word about theexcalibur. I haver 3 Excals and love them all.
The lightestbow at 150 lbs will take down any game in North America, the Owner of Excalibur Has taken Cape Buffalo with pass thrus with his 225 lb Exomax. See home page of Excal below.
Check out Excal if there is a store near you but order from Archers Nook.
 http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/mn.html

http://www.archersnook.com/bows.html

http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2004, 08:09:38 AM »
Very good Information HuntingGuy from Digger and I can back him up as I have eight Excaliburs...

Digger neat Big Bird but I could hear nothing, it did kinda like show it in sentace's. :-D  Wher or what is the vocal/bird ?
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2004, 08:25:25 AM »
Gary, probably have to ask your friendly moderater, I have no idea what it is, my speakers are disconnected.

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2004, 08:31:17 AM »
Got cha! Figured it out but no work fer me... :( Ohh well maybe later. Thanks Digger...
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2004, 09:30:53 AM »
Thanks so much for the replies guys, I really like that excalibur ExoMag with the 200 lb.  I live in Minnesota, but would like go on a Whitetail crossbow hunt eventually.  Which draw weight would you recommend for the best penetration?  Would 200 work well?  Also, what broadheads do you guys like?

And what kind of scopes can be installed on the xbow?  I am a Leupold guy, wonder if they make anything for them?


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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2004, 10:02:01 AM »
:D HuntingGuy any of the Excaliburs will work, I have a Exomag 200lb but have to use a crank to cock it. The best is what you can handle as I got a 9pt couple weeks ago and used my Vixen Excalibur which is 150lb draw weight and got a complete pass thru at 30 yards using Carbon laser II's with a 100grain SlickTrick 4 blade with 4" feathers.

All around Excalibur is the Exocet at 175 lbs, the fastest is the ExoMax at 225lbs. What you like is what counts so look at them all  :wink:
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2004, 10:16:12 AM »
Gary,

Congrats on the buck!  Would you recommend the scopes that Excalibur sells on the website under Accessories?  Also, what kind of accuracy can you expect out of these fine xbows at 25-30 yards?

Thanks for your help  :D

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2004, 11:29:36 AM »
This kind of accuracy at 25yds with my Exocet and you wont get a better scope for it than the Varizone scope from Excalibur. :D

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2004, 12:56:29 PM »
Again HuntingGuy Digger is right on, my pic is not with my bolts still in the target but shows a ROBINHOOD with a 185LB Exomag  :-D


This was with a Excalibur Vari-Zone scope also.. :)
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2004, 02:24:02 PM »
Saw your pictures..... Is that 2 bolts stuck in one eachother?  Is there a reason for that?
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2004, 02:32:30 PM »
:-D Whats your thoughts on this Digger  :-D HuntingGuy thats telling ya not to shoot at the same spot twice with a Excalibur and Vari-Zone scope with out removing the first arrow/bolt first. If you do tou get two in one :-D
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2004, 02:34:38 PM »
Am I missing something?  :roll:  :-D
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2004, 02:39:03 PM »
We posted at the same time HuntingGuy...It's called a RobinHood...Shoot one arrow/bolt then shoot another and hit your first arrow/bolt... :) RobinHood :)
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2004, 02:42:52 PM »
Thems is ROBIN HOODS, they are 2 twenty inch bolts that are now 1 thirty inch bolt with 6 vanes

They are driven in each other because of the deadly accuracy.

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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2004, 02:45:12 PM »
LOL no wonder I didn't catch on to the Robinhood thing  :) I decided on the Exocet I believe - and will get the accessory package with it.  I can't find the Varizone scope you guys talk of, just Excalibur "Max Zone" Scope 2.5 x 32 mm.  In the accessory kit , there is:

Excalibur "Max Zone" Scope 2.5 x 32 mm
Scope Mount
Scope Rings
Quiver Bracket
Excalibur 4-Arrow "Realtree Hardwoods" Quiver
Quiver Bracket
Deck Wax
Fast Flight Flemish String
Rope Cocking Aid
Stringer
6 - Arrows 22 Series Carbon w/Vanes & 100 gr. Target Points
Wasp - 3-Blade 100 gr. Broadheads


Anything I should buy on the side in addition, or will I be all set up?  I hear good things about their broadheads and arrows.  How well will they hold up on deer sized game?

Thanks again, guys - Really helps.  :D
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2004, 02:57:36 PM »
HuntingGuy I am going to let Digger give you a answer on the package deal. Its a nice set up but I have never purchased the package deal. It is everything you would need and as far as a whitetail deer no problem, more then enough.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2004, 03:43:18 PM »
If your ordering from Archers Nook you can get the Varizone Pack in stead. Put that together and your ready to hunt after you sight the scope in.

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Excalibur Max Zone Scope Pkg re Exomax, Exomag or Exocet - inc Max Zone Scope 2.5 x 32 mm, scope mount, scope rings, quiver bracket, Excalibur 4 arrow hardwoods quiver, deck wax, fast flight flemish string, rope cocking aid, stringer, 6 Carbon arrows w/vanes and 100 gr target points, 6 Wasp 3 blade 100 gr broadheads  279.00  223.20
 
315  Excalibur Vari Zone Scope Pkg re Exomax, Exomag, Exocet or Vixen - inc Vari Zone Scope 2 x 4 power, scope mount, scope rings, quiver bracket, Excalibur 4 arrow hardwoods quiver, deck wax, fast flight flemish string, rope cocking aid, stringer, 6 Carbon arrows w/vanes and 100 gr target points, 6 Wasp 3 blade 100 gr broadheads  299.00  239.20
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2004, 03:48:13 PM »
Woooooo-Hooooooooooo!  I'll be all set.  How do you like to sight in your crossbows?  One shot, adjust scope, one shot?  :D '

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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2004, 04:28:58 PM »
set the crosshairs for 20 yds using the elevation and windage knobs same as a rifle scope. Once your on target move to 40 yds. set the speed ring (dial in front of rear eyepiece) to 300 fps and shoot your target. If its to high  or too low just change the speed lower or higher till your on target.do not use windage or elevation knobs when sighting in high yardage.once your on at 40 yds you'll be on at 10, 20, 30 , 40 and 50 yd markers.

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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2004, 04:32:20 PM »
Dont understand fully  :eek:  but I am sure I will figure it out when I get it.  How is it that it would be on at all of those distances?  Can you explain a little more?  And when you say 'on target', are you referring to on paper or on bullseye? Sorry for so many questions, hope you don't mind.  Just is foreign to me right now.  Thanks
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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2004, 06:40:14 PM »
On target is in the bulls eye to me. :-)  the scope works by the speed ring, the faster the speed ring is increased the higher the power on the scope to 4x at 350 fps. You will get a small manual for the scope in your package and it explains it better.You should join the Excalibur forum. New guys are welcomed and all questions anwsered by a host opf members. The owner of Excalibur is there and you can email him or send a PM as well.Membership is free and the answers to your questions are priceless.

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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2004, 02:22:24 PM »
Sorry to chime in so late, but take it from an Excalibur Exocet owner, it's a great crossbow for whitetails! With the Exocet and the carbon arrows in the kit you should get close to 310 fps with 100 grain points. A reasonable maximum range on whitetails (from my experience) should be 30 to 35 yards if the deer is not on alert. The vari-zone scope has crosshairs with one aiming point above and three below the crosshairs. Set the crosshairs to be on at 20 yards, and the one above is for ten yards, the ones below for 30-40-50 yards if the velocity ring is properly adjusted. As for accuracy, I've shot groups under 2" at 50 yards, and with a well tuned broadhead/arrow combination similar accuracy is possible! It may take some experimenting to find the right combination, but I've had good luck with Wasp JakHammer mechanical broadheads, G-5 Outdoors "Montec" broadheads, and SlickTrick broadeads. The mechanicals must be double banded to prevent premature opening, though!
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