Bigfoot seen and shot?

[bullet maker]

Hay bullet maker - you said:  Most of you have read of my encounters that I`ve had, including the first one of the little bigfoot sitting outside my travel trailer, in the pouring rain and just sitting there starring at me when I opened the door one morning. I could have shot him, but I had the impression that it was a young bigfoot kid if you will. No matter how bad I would like to see it proved that they do exist, I couldn`t pull the trigger on a young bigfoot, it looked to much like wild human being.

I'm sorry but I must have missed the one about the little Bigfoot.  Gee, it soudned as though he was a lost little boy, sitting in the pouring rain.  Did it appear that he was waiting for you, or just curious?  How did he react to seeing you come out of the trailer?  

If you could either direct me to the post (story) or re-post it I would really appreciate it.  Thanks.  Mikey.

Hi Mikey
   Your right I didn`t post that story on here. I will post it so you can read it
    No, it wasn`t a little boy, it was an animal, It was a little bigfoot. Looked alot like a 8 or 10 year old kid, body wise, except covered with hair from head to foot. Had long arms down to his side, he was sitting on his haunches, like a viet-names do. with his knees up under his chin. arms at his side and resting on his clenched fist pointing towards the ground. He had large round yellow eyes, and black vertical sliths, like cat eyes.
   Dunno how long he had been sitting there in the rain. The rain was pouring down, and when I opened the door to the trailer, there he was looking at me. I often wonder how long he had been there also. Anyhow he stared at me for about 45 seconds, before running off. I looked him over throughly, he had 5 toes, on each foot. The toes were hairless and grey skin. The face was hairless, with grey skin. Nose like a human, ears like a human. No hair on the ears. Fist were clenched shut but I did notice he had a thumb and 4 fingers. I stared at him all over and up and down. He just stared right at my face. He never took his eyes off my face. He was 17 paces away from me. ( I walked it off later, when it quit raining.)
 He had 4 inch black hair all over his body, except for the areas that I already described. He was extemly fast. When he ran,-- he ran on two legs. He ran for about 10 yards, before disapearing down a ravine. I didn`t try to follow, cause like I said, it was pouring down rain.
   I never seen him again. I often hoped that I would, just to see if he would come to fruit or left over foods, that I dumped on the ground for the critters.  Other people in the hills where I live have finally come forward with similar stories after they have got to know me. Same type of little people, and the bigger Bigfeets.
    We have come to the conclusion, that they are little bigfoots kids. Sounds strange I know.

bullet maker

P.S. I will get the story on here with a picture or rather an artist drawing of what I saw.

[1911crazy]

bulletmaker/guys;  It makes sense if there's big bigfoot's there has to be little bigfoots too right.  There was one other story posted here about seeing a little bigfoot I believe it was a logger with his son. the kid happen to jump up on a fallen tree and came face to face with a little bigfoot and they both screamed and went seperate directions.  After that the logger always kept his '06 nearby.   Funny in some strange places I logged at i always kept my chainsaw nearby and hot ready to cut at anytime my thoughts were it just ain't going far in two pieces?  If its of this earth.
                                                                     BigBill

[twodollarpistol]

Bullet Maker
 I realize that no technology is foolproof but the incident you are speaking of was a case of a man intentionally trying to avoid detection by these things. I was just wandering if anyone had by chance caught something. I still am among the unbelieving, but I am trying to develope a somewhat open mind.

[bullet maker]

twodollarpistol
   your right about the technology, it can and would find bigfoot. I was pointing out that if a person was trying to hide, he could and not be detected. And yes I agree that unless Bigfoot knew he was being hunted, he could out smart the technology, depending if he was in heavy cover.
   It would be nice if one could afford the technology, but that would be prohibitive for us. It just cost to much money.
   I dont know if you ever watch the OLN channel, but once a week, there is a program called (Mysterious encounters). that uses all that technology, and gets recording of Bigfoot, and runs around the woods trying to get pictures of Bigfoot. Here in my state of Okla, it comes on Wed, at 21:00 hrs. There`s this gal called (Autum Williams ) and her crew that runs around the different states, looking for Bigfoot. They never get a picture of one, but I think with all the high dollar stuff they have, that they ain`t letting us know.

bullet maker

[1911crazy]

twodollarpistol
   your right about the technology, it can and would find bigfoot. I was pointing out that if a person was trying to hide, he could and not be detected. And yes I agree that unless Bigfoot knew he was being hunted, he could out smart the technology, depending if he was in heavy cover.
   It would be nice if one could afford the technology, but that would be prohibitive for us. It just cost to much money.
   I dont know if you ever watch the OLN channel, but once a week, there is a program called (Mysterious encounters). that uses all that technology, and gets recording of Bigfoot, and runs around the woods trying to get pictures of Bigfoot. Here in my state of Okla, it comes on Wed, at 21:00 hrs. There`s this gal called (Autum Williams ) and her crew that runs around the different states, looking for Bigfoot. They never get a picture of one, but I think with all the high dollar stuff they have, that they ain`t letting us know.

bullet maker

Bulletmaker  something just isn't right about that program they never turn up anything to show us?   If they did the whole world would flock to that spot and tear up everything in sight looking for one think about it?  They do seem to go off the beaten path in the wilds of our country so it just maybe possible their just gathering evidence and keeping quiet about it maybe they have a goverment grant to investigate it.      BigBill

[quickdtoo]

For anyone interested in researching Bigfoot, do a google.com search for Grover Krantz.

[Grubbs]

bullet maker...I am not really trying to be confrontational, but you pretty well proved my point.  You said you had two pictures, but it turns out they are not very reliable (as all of the other "pictures" have been.  I am not interested in foot cast because they have all proven to be fake.  Like I said before, solid proof is what the vast majority of people will need to see if we are to believe such nonsense.  Modern tech would allow SOMEBODY to have solid evidence.  Scientists discover new animals all the time in other countries....why not Bigfoot?......because there is no such thing.  It makes for good stories though.

[Ol' Man Mountain]

Hi All:

I would like to add my two-cents about "all" Bigfoot/Sasquatch tracks found are proven to be fake:

On November 15, 1999, J. H. Chilcutt, Latent Fingerprint Examiner for
Conroe Police Department, Conroe, Texas, received  a plaster cast of a footprint from Dr. Jeff Meldrum, Dept. Biological Science, Idaho State University, Pocatello, Idaho . The cast was made by Deputy James P. Akin of the Pike County Sheriff's Office in Pike County, Georgia in 1997 from an impression found in the Elkins Creek flood plain. The cast was 17.5" long and 8.5" wide.
 
The Elkins Creek casting was examined over a period of several months and J.H. Chilcutt observed several areas on the cast where primate dermal ridges appeared.

After a considerable amount of time studying the dermal ridge flow patterns found on the castings, J.H. Chilcutt came to the conclusion that the dermal ridges were definitely the ridges of a non-human primate.

That conclusion was based on the fact that humans have creases running perpendicular to the lateral ridges on the first joint of the toes where the toe meets the foot. No such creases were observed on the track casting. In this particular area on the Elkin Creek casting the ridges were found to flow lengthwise along the side of the foot. According to J.H. Chilcutt this does not occur in the human or the known non-human primate. The dermal ridge flow patterns found on the Elkins Creek casting were also said to be consistent with the 1967 Blue Creek Mountain Road cast and the 1984 Walla Walla, Table Spring cast.

Based on the conclusions reached after careful study of the Elkins Creek cast,  J. H. Chilcutt, Latent Fingerprint Examiner for Conroe Police Department, Conroe, Texas gave the following opinion:
"The Elkins Creek Cast is that of an unknown primate."

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Throughout remote and rugged regions of North America over the span of the last 50 years several thousand eyewitness reports of sasquatch sightings, foot prints, and other circumstantial evidence has been documented and accumulated.

Now the way I see it, this is either the greatest hoax of all time or there just might be a highly intelligent, extremely elusive, large, unknown primate yet to be discovered.

Since I have always had an open mind when it comes to scientific discoveries, and I'm not a big enough fool to call thousands of people liars and hoaxers, I am inclined to believe the above.

[quickdtoo]

More info on the Elkins Creek castings...
http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/sbs/elkins.html

[bullet maker]

bullet maker...I am not really trying to be confrontational, but you pretty well proved my point.  You said you had two pictures, but it turns out they are not very reliable (as all of the other "pictures" have been.  I am not interested in foot cast because they have all proven to be fake.  Like I said before, solid proof is what the vast majority of people will need to see if we are to believe such nonsense.  Modern tech would allow SOMEBODY to have solid evidence.  Scientists discover new animals all the time in other countries....why not Bigfoot?......because there is no such thing.  It makes for good stories though.

   I did not say they were not very reliable, I said that they were not the whole animal in essence. I said I got a picture of ones head, and not his body, and the other picture was of his leg. His right leg, thigh, calf musle and foot, the whole entire right leg. Your putting words in my mouth. Re read the article again . I would like to get a whole picture of the animal standing there, but it dont work that way. Besides, if I did show you a picture of one standing there in front of the camera, you would say it was a fake.  Just like the other gentlemen tried to show you that the footcast expert said, there foot tracks are different from humans, and you can not fake a real foot track because of the dermal ridges.
   Now if I was your school teacher, I would make you go read the assignment over again, and  send you home with a note to your parents. hahah,,, just jokeing.

bullet maker

[bullet maker]

Hi All:

I would like to add my two-cents about "all" Bigfoot/Sasquatch tracks found are proven to be fake:

On November 15, 1999, J. H. Chilcutt, Latent Fingerprint Examiner for
Conroe Police Department, Conroe, Texas, received  a plaster cast of a footprint from Dr. Jeff Meldrum, Dept. Biological Science, Idaho State University, Pocatello, Idaho . The cast was made by Deputy James P. Akin of the Pike County Sheriff's Office in Pike County, Georgia in 1997 from an impression found in the Elkins Creek flood plain. The cast was 17.5" long and 8.5" wide.
 
The Elkins Creek casting was examined over a period of several months and J.H. Chilcutt observed several areas on the cast where primate


dermal ridges appeared.

After a considerable amount of time studying the dermal ridge flow patterns found on the castings, J.H. Chilcutt came to the conclusion that the dermal ridges were definitely the ridges of a non-human primate.

That conclusion was based on the fact that humans have creases running perpendicular to the lateral ridges on the first joint of the toes where the toe meets the foot. No such creases were observed on the track casting. In this particular area on the Elkin Creek casting the ridges were found to flow lengthwise along the side of the foot. According to J.H. Chilcutt this does not occur in the human or the known non-human primate. The dermal ridge flow patterns found on the Elkins Creek casting were also said to be consistent with the 1967 Blue Creek Mountain Road cast and the 1984 Walla Walla, Table Spring cast.

Based on the conclusions reached after careful study of the Elkins Creek cast,  J. H. Chilcutt, Latent Fingerprint Examiner for Conroe Police Department, Conroe, Texas gave the following opinion:
"The Elkins Creek Cast is that of an unknown primate."

-----------------------

Throughout remote and rugged regions of North America over the span of the last 50 years several thousand eyewitness reports of sasquatch sightings, foot prints, and other circumstantial evidence has been documented and accumulated.

Now the way I see it, this is either the greatest hoax of all time or there just might be a highly intelligent, extremely elusive, large, unknown primate yet to be discovered.

Since I have always had an open mind when it comes to scientific discoveries, and I'm not a big enough fool to call thousands of people liars and hoaxers, I am inclined to believe the above.

Excellent  report Ol man mountain  

bullet maker  

[bullet maker]

More info on the Elkins Creek castings...
http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/sbs/elkins.html

Excellent site quickdtoo  
  My foot cast that I have was taken on a creek bank with a lot of clay in the soil, so therefore, I could not see the dermal ridges, but the five toes showed up plain enough, also one point of interest is, as I followed the tracks, about every 30 yards or 40 yards, he would go down on all four and leave his knuckle prints as well.

bullet maker

[quickdtoo]

...... there foot tracks are different from humans, and you can not fake a real foot track because of the dermal ridges.

With the technology of modern special effects available, I would think anyone with the available funding and desire and a bit of creative thinking, could make "tracks" that would fool anyone. I think a chimp or gorilla track could be used as a model to build on and you would only need to build one pair of "feet". A man on short stilts carrying a backpack with enough weigh could simulate the stride and track depth of a bigfoot.

[bullet maker]

Yeah your right quicktodo, except like Dr. Chilchutt said, the bigfoot track have a unique design all of there own. No other known animal has tracks like them the dermal ridges is one of the things sets them apart. And I might add that if someone could duplicate the exact tracks, He would be awful busy for a long, long , time, to cover all the states, that these creatures have been seen in, and tracks, found.  

    When you find tracks of Bigfoot a hundred miles from any civilization, it sure ain`t fake.

bullet maker

[propredator]

When you find tracks of Bigfoot a hundred miles from any civilization, it sure ain`t fake.

 That would make sense,if sum one was to fake em theyed putem where sumone would easly find em.Bullet maker if you have been runing trail cams fer 3 years you have invested a lot of time an money.i dont doubt that you have seen em and have cast prints,why else would you be obsesed with the hairy guy
 and your right if the aniaml is too close to the cam the pic is blurry.I wish you the best of luck in your quest.I know if i found prints out in the middle of noware i too would be very curious of what made em.I like to keep a open mind about bigfoot.If it exsist im not sure i want to see it or its footprints,probably would never seem the same being in the woods knowing something was out there that big an sneaky  

[quickdtoo]

Here's another link on bigfoot tracks...

http://www.rfthomas.clara.net/bf_prints.html

And you can even join to the International Bigfoot Society....

http://www.internationalbigfootsociety.com/html/track.php?id=99

[Grubbs]

bulletmaker...so let's see the pics you have.  I can be swayed with solid evidence, not circumstantial.  I guess I am a born skeptic about most things.  No kidding, lets see the pics so we can discuss them.

[bullet maker]

OK, but first where are you from? I don`t like talking to a man that will not tell where he is from. It gives me a creepy feeling.

bullet maker :shock:

[twodollarpistol]

OK, but first where are you from? I don`t like talking to a man that will not tell where he is from. It gives me a creepy feeling.

bullet maker :shock:

Bullet Maker
 How do you know you are talking to a man??? :-D

[bullet maker]

hey your right twodollar pistol  :-D  :-D



oh and by the way grubbs, in an earlier post, you did say you were from west texas, so my fault, I will post the pictures,

bullet maker

P.S. it is a lot of trouble, so be patient, I`m new at this computor stuff, so it will take a time.

[Grubbs]

bullet maker...I live in W. Texas.  Now can I see your pics....I'm real curious.  Better yet, post them for all of us to see.  thanks    

Bythe way. where are you from?