Author Topic: 35 remington (Read 874 times)

sageman · « **on:** September 29, 2004, 12:43:16 PM »

i just bought a 35 remington contender. i was just wondering what the recoil will be like will it be back or back and up and so on is there anything it can be compared to

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** September 29, 2004, 01:18:26 PM »

Recoil from a 14" .35 Rem. barrel shooting factory level 200s is really rather mild. Not really enough different from say a .30-30 or 7-30 with same barrel length.

It will come up a little from the bags. You may be able to detect a little left twist but not much. It's a pleasant barrel to shoot. WHEN they go bang they are wonderfully accurate. I've owned several of the blued ones and never yet found one that didn't have issues in this regard. They snapped on anywhere from 10% to 50% or more of loads whether factory ammo or reloads. Yeah folks I know how to cure it with reloads. But if it won't shoot factory it is a barrel problem.

I owned one SS barrel and it fired every thing I fed it including 50 or more of those that failed to fire in older blued barrels I'd owned. This was one good barrel. I was a fool for letting a former advertiser on this site get his hands on it to turn into one of his proprietary rounds similar to but not equal to the .358 JDJ. He ruined the barrel trying to do a rechamber. Enough of that story, needless to say the barrel is no longer in existence in any caliber or chambering. But man was that a fine barrel before I shipped it off.

Thebear_78 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 29, 2004, 01:50:06 PM »

I also had a stainless 35 remington 14" barrel for my contender. It was a great barrel. It shot very well and I never had any trouble with misfires. It makes a dandy whitetail round from the contender. I shot mainly remington 200gr coreloks out of it. I would recomend it to anyone looking for a medium range deer/bear round in thier contender. Like graybeard said the recoil isn't bad at all.

22hornet · « **Reply #3 on:** September 29, 2004, 02:08:57 PM »

I have one that I have yet to fire, a 14" Bullberry hopefully I won't have any troubles with it. But I'm glad to hear its not gonna smack me in the head when I light one off.... lol

sageman · « **Reply #4 on:** September 29, 2004, 02:14:29 PM »

what would be everyones oppinyen on the whispers i have a friend that fires a 300 whisper an ihmsa bot i was wondering how you reload them and what other calibers it comes in. And maby the recoil levels of each caliber would be great thanx

sageman · « **Reply #5 on:** September 29, 2004, 03:33:04 PM »

if i reloadid my own 35 rem and used a 250 grain bullet and 33 grains of imr 40 64 then what would the recoil be like. Can u suggest a load?

Lone Star · « **Reply #6 on:** September 29, 2004, 03:53:34 PM »

With factory wood and no scope then the recoil will get to you after a box or so. I used the caliber in IHMSA matches for several years in the mid-80s, shooting 180s on the near targets and 250s on the rams. By the time I got to the last bank of rams my wrist was shaking pretty badly, and I'm used to heavily recoiling revolvers. Never shot over a 36 with that barrel, but as soon as I started using my old S-14 in .30 Herrett again I went clean. If you can shoot the .35 with 250s anything else is a piece of cake...well, sorta, the .50-70 is a touch harder to handle! :wink:

cbagman · « **Reply #7 on:** September 29, 2004, 05:04:05 PM »

:-D . I shoot any 200 g softpoint loaded for 1900 fps in a 15 in custom muzzlebrake factory .35 Rem older barrel and I was lucky to get a barrel which does shoot every time. It pushes back and a little up. You could shoot it many times but with good hearing protection as the blast is a little fierce. I have a custom shop 24 in bull barrel which has proven to be as reliable as well. Once you get a .35 Rem shooter you better hang on to it.. from cbagman

Graybeard · « **Reply #8 on:** September 29, 2004, 06:16:08 PM »

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if i reloadid my own 35 rem and used a 250 grain bullet and 33 grains of imr 40 64 then what would the recoil be like. Can u suggest a load?

I would recommend you not even consider loading a 250 grain. If for silhouette as mentioned above a 200 would have been superior or even the 180s used. For hunting it is a useless excercise in futility. It will not expand past 50 yards if even there.

The ONLY bullet I ever even consider for this round is the round nose 200s as made by Hornady, Remington, Speer, Winchester and no doubt others. I use either Hornady or Remingtons always in all of my guns so chambered. It is as perfect a fit and they go together like bacon and eggs.

sageman · « **Reply #9 on:** September 29, 2004, 06:43:19 PM »

i was wondering what type of powder and how much you would recomend.

sageman · « **Reply #10 on:** September 29, 2004, 07:47:51 PM »

ive been hearingthat the 35 rem kicks quite a bit would it be more than a ruger suber black hawk 44 mag or something like that?

wheelgun · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2004, 01:58:53 AM »

I have had my 35 rem 14" no brake for a few years.Recoil is not a problem don't notice any twist.I have used the 180gr ssp hornady for deer and it works well.I tried the lighter bullets but it really likes the 180-200 grains the best.When I first got it misfires occured sometimes but after I resized the brass everything was okay.I think the 35 is a good round in the contender.

Duffy · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2004, 05:58:02 AM »

If you just bought one and want to know what it's like, take it out and SHOOT IT!

It's going to recoil "different" than your BH44. Your 44 rolls up in the hand and lessens recoil where as the contender comes back more and twists up a bit. Only way your gonna find out is to take it out and let er rip.

Possum · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2004, 12:10:23 PM »

I have a 35 AA barrel converted for use with blue frames. Never had a problem with misfires. I am starting to wonder (and I DO NOT profess any knowlege of the subject) if the blued versions of the .35 are where the problems are concentrated.

Anyway, the recoil is not too bad. It is a dream to shoot after touching off one in a 15" 30.06. :grin:

Lone Star · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2004, 05:30:19 PM »

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I would recommend you not even consider loading a 250 grain. If for silhouette as mentioned above a 200 would have been superior or even the 180s used. For hunting it is a useless excercise in futility. It will not expand past 50 yards if even there..

To each his own, I was simply recounting my own experience. Be that as it may, I killed a nice bull moose fifteen years ago with a warmer-than-the-silhouette load pushing the same Speer 250 SP. Expansion in an Alaska bull is less important than penetration, and the bull died quickily enough - for a 1200# moose that is. You don't shoot moose with a handgun much over 30-50 yards either - bow range. The 250s were rather handy on the IHMSA rams at one local range where they were set full-footed with the ever-present wind on their backs. Never lost one with the 250s, while others shooting .44 mags and .30-30s lost about 40% of those they hit. Nope, 180s would not have been "superior" for me....I lost several myself.

Futile is as futile does I guess, and the 250s weren't futile by any means. They are certainly not for everyone and I'd not use them on smaller game, but plenty of HHI hunters used non-expanding bullets on big game (I'm not talking deer here) for years with similar results...the 275- and 300-grainers in the .375 JDJ come to mind. Tough bullets seem to work okay on the big boys....at least so experience says. If the 250 seems too heavy for you, try the Speer 220 FN, it will expand better in lighter game. Or wimp-out and use a 200 grainer...... :wink:

Actually today I usually use a 150 CoreLokt in this cartridge on Texas or Alaskan deer. Launched at 2330 fps it expands well yet penetrates plenty on these small animals. I've had good luck with the 200 RNCL too, and the 180 Speer accounted for a handful of Kodiak Island deer from my barrel too.

Anduril · « **Reply #15 on:** October 01, 2004, 08:13:16 AM »

For reloads try Reloader 7, H4227 or IMR3031.
Use charges as recommended by the powder manufacturers.
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Lone Star · « **Reply #16 on:** October 01, 2004, 03:32:04 PM »

Reloder 7 and IMR/H4227 never worked too well for me in my .35 Rem, both giving mediocre accuracy and 4227 giving higher pressures at lower velocities. The powder giving the overall best results has been AA2015 - high velocities and excellent accuracy. I get 2330 fps with the 150 PCL and 2150 fps with the 180 FNSP. Both average under 2 moa for five-shot groups. The loads are above book but appear safe in my barrel.

I find that current WW brass can be loaded somewhat hotter than any RP cases I have. The WW cases show less expansion at the same velocities and can be loaded about 50-75 fps faster than RP cases for equal pressure signs.

C A Plater · « **Reply #17 on:** October 02, 2004, 01:59:51 PM »

I get the best accuracy in my 14" AA barrel with IMR4064 and either a Sierra 200 grain round nose or the 180 grain Speer FP. Charge weights are 39.0 for the 200 and 39.5 for the 180 and chronograph at 1850 and 1920 fps respectively The same loads get another 200 fps from a Marlin carbine. The 200 grain load can do about 1.5 MOA and the 180 not quite as tight. The charges are compressed which probably helps accuracy and show no excessive pressure signs. and are within IMR published maximums.