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Here to stay?
« on: October 11, 2004, 06:54:55 AM »
Is the two-stage trigger on the hunter gun here to stay?

Being in UT, doesn't really give me the best chance to hear about what is being said about equipment like this.  I wouldn't mind getting one, for the LOP adjustability and the percieved helped it might give.

I have heard some shooters say that it is not in the spirit of a hunter gun.  Then again I must agree with a friend who has pointed out that it doesn't appear that there has been a lot of 40's shot in the last couple years, because of it. Being a poor college student, I think that I wouldn't mind trying one. I just don't want to be eating the cost of a trigger if the rules changed like it did for the chin guns.

So what is the consensus?   

C Hunter

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Here to stay?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2004, 07:51:00 AM »
The conversion of the Anschutz single-stage trigger isn't all that expensive if you have a rudimentary knowledge of triggers and gunsmithing.
Neal Stepp (817-595-2090) sells the part for the non-LOP-adjustable version for about $68. The Adjustable version is around $85.

(I, personally, dislike the adjustable version as the 'shoe' feels uncomfortable. Most of the conversions that I've done were for people who preferred to go 'fixed' lop.)

The fix requires that you be able to separate the bbld action from the stock (2 screws), remove the trigger group (2 more screws), remove the weight-of-pull spring (1 screw and gently pry the spring loose with a flat blade screwdriver), push out a single pin, drop the trigger 'staff' and separate it from the 'cam', put the cam into the new 'staff' and reverse the process. Takes about 20 minutes if you've never done it. About 10 if you have. (I've done about 16. 2 or 3 required some moderately extensive stoning to get a good second stage. The others were drop in.)
Adjustments are simple and minimal.

If you're not comfortable with doing your own work, I believe that you can send the unit to Neal and he'll do it for you for a nominal amount.

Whether the 2-stage helps is not questionable -- it's a nicer pull.
(The 2-stage is actually a safer trigger design since it's not necessary to have a 'knife-edge' sear engagement on the first stage -- which is why the Mauser brothers designed their military bolt rifles with them over a hundred years ago.)
Whether it's in the spirit of the rules is also IMO not questionable -- there were legal 2-stage triggers in the game from the beginning...until some whiners started crying that they didn't have them so they should be illegal.
Whether we'll go through another rule quiffle -- this is SILHOUETTE! :-D
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Re: Here to stay?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2004, 06:33:55 AM »
Rules stability is important.  Hopefully Silhouette is now mature enough as a sport (silhouette is fairly young shooting sport wise in the US compared to others) the constant rule changes will be a thing of the past.  Folks tend not to invest if they don't feel the investment will be "legal" in a year or two.  
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Is the two-stage trigger on the hunter gun here to stay?

Being in UT, doesn't really give me the best chance to hear about what is being said about equipment like this.  I wouldn't mind getting one, for the LOP adjustability and the percieved helped it might give.

I have heard some shooters say that it is not in the spirit of a hunter gun.  Then again I must agree with a friend who has pointed out that it doesn't appear that there has been a lot of 40's shot in the last couple years, because of it. Being a poor college student, I think that I wouldn't mind trying one. I just don't want to be eating the cost of a trigger if the rules changed like it did for the chin guns.

So what is the consensus?   

C Hunter