My wife and I head out on the 18'th, and are both using the Ball-et. She is using a Traditions Deerhunter and mine is a Lyman Deerstalker. My load is 80g of FFFg Goex, and hers is 80g of 777 FF. I hope they work ok, we have used ball most of the time. But I was having some problems with accuracy with any ball traveling over 1300 fps, so what the heck.