nickel brass for 7-30 waters?????????

[GNNC]

I remember about a year ago someone said they had a source for nickel 7-30 waters brass. Does this place still offer the brass, or have i waited to long to persue?

Thanks,GNNC

[Catfish]

Why would you want it? Nickel brass will split after very few reloadings and it cost more.

[haroldclark]

GNNC,

I agree with Catfish.  I bought 300 rounds of Nickle cases for the 30-30 Win.  That was a nasty mistake.  I split a 500 box with a buddie and even he is mad at me for that deal. (Not really!!!)

Nickle looks good in the beginning and then the nickle starts splitting and flaking off.  Now, you have a neck tension problem.

I used this stuff for 30-30.  I didn't try to use it for necking down to 7-30 waters.

Harold Clark

[drichi]

New nickel federal 7-30 waters brass. Biechrich Ammunition, Rochester, N.Y.
 585-248-3660. Was $30 per hundred last year. dave

[Graybeard]

Sorry guys but my experience with nickled brass is just drastically different. I've used it in .38 Special, .357 Mag and other straight wall pistol rounds for many many years. I've had some cases go 50 or more loads with no signs of giving up. Never seen any tendency to split prematurely. I think folks splitting them are just loading too danged hot.

As to the 7-30 nickel cases I bought 100 of them at Midsouth Shooters Supply (now a site sponsor) for $45 back when they first came out. I have no clue how many times those cases have been loaded but I've not lost a single one in likely 15+ years of use.

I picked up another box of them in a trade deal a couple years ago still brand new but with two missing so only a total of 98 in the box. Guy said he did some kinda experiment with those two and didn't include them. If you don't find any and still want them let me know and we'll see if we can work out a price that works for both of us. I have far more 7-30 cases than I'll ever use the rest of my life and don't really need them.

[Reed1911]

I agree with Greybeard, here we have seen very little to no difference with nickel vs. brass with the reloading process. The only time I recommend against nickel is with sensitive bullet calibers like the .17Rem and in benchrest loads. I like to polish the neck area inside the case, and it seems to take longer with the nickel. Might be my imagination though.

[palgeno]

I like nickle brass in straight walls , but don't like it for bottle necked cartridges. Lots of resistance when you fully resize----probably hard on the dies,too---maybe not so bad if you only neck size.  pg

[Reed1911]

Believe it or not, nickel brass is less destructive to dies than regular brass. Or at least it can be. Nickel tends not pick up as much dirt and grit which is the real killer of dies. If you use clean brass, the dies (good dies) will last longer than you will.

[Graybeard]

I've used nickeled cases in .223 Rem., 7-30 Waters, .243 Win., 7-08 made from .308 Win. and .30-06 that I can recall in addition to the straight wall pistol rounds.

If anything I find they are easier to size and sure seems to me should be easier on the dies not harder on them. I just have found no down side to them. They are the ONLY case I use in 7-30 for my hunting loads. For othegr general shooting I still use formed cases from .30-30 as well as brass FC 7-30 headstamped cases. I probably have 500+ 7-30 cases in use with half or more loaded at any given time. I like nickel cases.

[palgeno]

Maybe I need to use sizing wax on new bottle neck nickel brass to reduce the forces ---or maybe a different expander ball. Anyway I'm glad to hear you guys don't think nickel is hard on dies. I like the way the loads look with nickel brass and Nosler Ballistic Silver Tip bullets---pure hubris when eyeing my handywork! I have a bunch loaded for my Encore pistol as a deer round. In 45 acp, I use nickel to distinguish between IDPA and bullseye loads and I use nickel for .357 and brass for .38 spl-----easier to sort-----those little headstamps are getting harder for me to see these days!      pg

[Graybeard]

The only lube I've used for 10 years or more is the RCBS pump spray stuff. Really messy as the spray nozzle gets stopped up often and at times keeps squirting when you stop pushing it.  :eek:  I've found alcohol is the proper solvent. If you keep an extra bottle around with alcohol in it and from time to time drop your spray head in it and pump a time or three it keeps it clean.

I've tried a lot of sizing lubes and prefer it over all others.

[MnMike]

I have used mostly nickel bass in my 7-30. It sizes easily and shoots good. For best accuracy, it needs to be fireformed to your chamber. I use reduced loads with the bullet touching the lands.

mike