Author Topic: would like to see 300win mag or 338 ultra or 300ultra (Read 630 times)

3006bluffhunter · « **on:** October 22, 2004, 09:02:14 AM »

Ok now i started something:I thing they could take there 10 gauge frame and make a few guns that were 300win mag or 338 ultra or 300ultra....Yes they deliver lots of preasure....but don't you think a 10 gauge delivers lots of preasure..........I would like to here from other people what they think.......these would be good elk and moose guns out to 300 yards....yes they have the quarter inch jacket on the bottom of the shell case but they should make a good ejector for them to work in the handy..... Lets here your thoughts? 3006 bluff hunter

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2004, 09:17:25 AM »

I do believe shotgun pressures are still way below CF pressures, even the 10 ga. Actually the 12ga 3.5" shotshell has pressures exceeding the 10ga.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/saami_pressures.htm

Mac11700 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2004, 10:13:55 AM »

Bigger...doesn't always mean stronger...and I don't think they will ever chamber them...but you can always put it on your wish list :wink: and,from what I hear.... they are fine elk rounds

Mac

safetysheriff · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2004, 04:07:47 PM »

As much as I enjoy shooting Handi's I think you're barking up the wrong tree. I think the .270 with its very high working pressures -- over the years reaching 67,000 psi per NRA 'Handloading' 1986 ed' -- is about the max' we'll see in a Handi'. Take that "maximum product average chamber pressure" and multiply it by the cross section of a .270 cartridge base and you've got plenty! But going much more is probably asking too much of the present Handi's "standing breech" design and materials.

Want a long-range Handi'? Get one of those .280 Remington models with the 26" barrel and see if you can't shoot across one zip code and through another! :eek:

FWIW: In a Wal Mart the other day I saw a 300 Weatherby Mag' in a Vanguard model for $388. :shock: You'll be VERY hard-pressed to beat that -- dollar for dollar. You better get one while you can! But, you still won't beat the experience of downing your game with a less expensive, well-built single shot. It just has a flavor all its own! And the Handi' serves it up in spades.... :wink:

Take care,

SS'

Mac11700 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2004, 07:46:04 PM »

I don't know if the big sale is still going on at Walley World on the Vangaurds but you can get them if in stock for $250.00.........and if your wanting a very nice bolt action...that one will work great.

Mac

buckslayer · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2004, 02:21:58 PM »

12 ga. 3.5 1500 - 1800 psi 300 ultra 70000- 80,000 psi

quickdtoo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2004, 03:14:13 PM »

Quote from: buckslayer

12 ga. 3.5 1500 - 1800 psi 300 ultra 70000- 80,000 psi

Make that 13000-15000psi for the 12ga 3.5" and you'd be closer. :wink:

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/saami_pressures.htm

JPH45 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2004, 07:06:46 PM »

A deep subject, one that certainly gets folks fired up. While I am certainly one who stands in the standard chamberings camp, there is a lot of difference in trajectory between a bullet moving 2900 fps and one moving at 3300 fps or more. At 200 yards it makes little difference, at 400 and more it can be all the difference in the world.

There is a lot of debate on shooting at game at ranges exceeding 300 yards, some even question that. Reality is that for some hunters in some situations 400 yards is a good as it gets. Good equipment, regular and consistant practice can and does make such shooting possible. Some may question it, but if the hunter and their rig is capable, and the hunter is not taking the proverbial Hail Mary shot, I see no reason not to. It is afterall the primary purpose of a 30 or so caliber magnum, to reach out and touch 'em.

At the same time, I fail to see any purpose in using a 30 Magnum in the woods, but more and more I see hunters carrying 300 Winmags into woods that offer shots at ranges no greater than 100 yards, an occasional 150 or so. A 7-08, 308, 270, 30-06 are perfectly at home at ranges up to 300. The 30-30 has served some an entire lifetime.

For some, the hunt is about getting close, for some the hunt is about being in the outdoors at all and for some the hunt is about bringing home the bacon. As has been said by one far more a master of words than I, "Bringing home meat from the hunt is the purpose of hunting. Bringing home game is the ultimate evidence of our having gone hunting." (I'm sure I screwed that up)

The Handi is a good platform for the cartridges it is offered in and the hunting it is intended for. It is not strong enough for magnum cartridges, and I am sure the company will not offer them nor ever make a model so capable. While there seems to be a small demand, there simply is not enough money from that to justify the development of the rifle.

Many of us have hoped that NEF/Marlin would chamber the Handi for cartridges for which it is a perfect platform, 32 H&R Magnum, 7.62x39, 257 Roberts, 25-20, 25-30, 38-55, 35 Whelen, 358 Winchester and a number of others. Alas, it seems to be more of the same.

3006bluffhunter · « **Reply #8 on:** October 24, 2004, 09:08:30 AM »

There are still people i bet that would buy the barrels in 300win mag 338 ultra and 300ultra handy rifle.......they would be great on a one shot wonder!

tallyho · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:24:17 AM »

If anybody really wantd a .300 Win Mag single shot, PM or email me. I got a Ruger #1 unfired in that caliber. It is in the classifieds.

I want a 30/30, 7/08 or .308 or such like in a NEF instead.

Cheers,
Kerry