Opening day at the end of shooting light had a nice 4pt walk out at 80 yrds, dropped him like a hot potato. I was using a Tradition Tracker 209 scoped ready pack, 295 gr pb hollow point and 100gr loose pyroducx ? only thing i did was change the scope rings sighted dead on at 100 yrds 1 1/2 in group and went hunting. it hit high lung with a real nice exit hole about 3/4 in. I know people say you get what you pay for $179.00 but as long as i take care of it , it should last a few seasons.