Author Topic: To get more Accuracy out of my Rem 700 ADL 22 250 (Read 1888 times)

varmit_master · « **on:** January 01, 2003, 03:07:56 AM »

I got a new rifle it will shoot less than an inch group at a 100 yds with factory ammo Win Silver BT in 50gr all i have done to the gun was had the trigger work on it is a ADL black stock Rem 700 in a 22 250 if i float the barrel and glass bed the action can i tell alot after that or which of the one hELPS it the MOST beding the action or Floating the barrel i need to work up a load for it i wont to shoot a 50gr bullet like a BT or a Hornady SPSX bullet all help i will take good hunting :-)

jhm · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2003, 11:44:54 AM »

Richard I see you finelly got the rifle out and shooting it sounds like its doing a fine job as is, If it is the regular factory synthtic stock you might want to look into another stock a chip in town has tried a couple of them without much success didnt gain over what they did when they were stock without doing anything to them, but I dont recall him having as good a luck as you are with yours. Keep me posted as what you do bring it by and we might make a morning of the yotes here on the farm.

JIM

gunnut69 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 01, 2003, 07:21:50 PM »

If you'd like to try free floating the barrel it is easy and reverseable. Use heavy card stock, 1 or 2 layers, under the action screws, front and rear. Punch holes for the screws to go thru and trim sides fairly even. When the rifle is assembled the effect is to float the barrel. Shim both front and rear screws else the action will be in a twist. good luck from the gunnut69

varmit_master · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2003, 11:31:10 PM »

GB do u have any thing to add to help me out on this and thanks ever body i am going to try the polishing the crown remember any help i will take thank u

gunnut69 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2003, 09:59:45 AM »

I have heard of polishing tecknique before but have never tried it. Therefor can't comment on it's effectiveness.. I will say the if you alter the crown to any degree from truly square with the bore the effect on the accurracy of the rifle will NOT improve and may deteriorate badly. If all that's done is a light polish, almost no metal is removed and no damage is done. I would think a round headed screw would be more concentric than something hand turned on a grinder.. When recutting a crown it is imparative that it be kept square with the bore. If the rifle's shooting 1 inch groups now, that's not bad.. I have seen Remington rifles with tiny chips in the terminus of the lands before but didn't know the cause. The best theory I've heard so far is that the button rifling process creates a thin work hardened layer in the bore. The repeated stress of firing causes this layer to shatter or chip away at the rifleing terminus (crown). A careful recrown (perhaps even a lite polishing) will help moderate or eliminate the damage and the accuracy robbing effects...

varmit_master · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2003, 01:58:38 AM »

Thanks Gunnut69 i am going to let a gun smith do the polishing on the crown it is shooting less than an 1 inch group with fatcory ammo Win Sup. Silver BT 50 gr will it hurt my gun in any way after he gets done i dont wont it shooting worst than it is do u think it will be ok to let him do it please get back with me thank u

varmit_master · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2003, 02:40:10 AM »

the trigger was sat on 2 1-2 pds and i had it sat up to 3pds so my it would be ok for my wife to carry hunting let me what u think i need to do gunnut69 to make it shoot better and i will have it done thank u Richard

gunnut69 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2003, 06:56:45 PM »

I really wasn't trying to say the trick wouldn't work, but I try to never recomend anything I've not done myself.. I guess the 'old nra' trick gives away a bit about my age.. not old really, just very experienced... I will give your tecknique a try, as soon as I get a chance. VM-- Glass bedding the front action ring and a couple inches of the barrel, cleaning the trigger pull up a bit(3 pounds is plenty light if no creep or overtravel) and polishing the crown, are places to start.. If your smith does his job right, groups should not get worse and should in fact improve. Just remember, improvement in groups size is a relative thing and when groups get under an inch, even a 10th of an inch is guite a bit.. Also I fear, to get the best posible groups reloading will probably be mandatory... good luck from the gunnut69

varmit_master · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2003, 11:24:49 PM »

THANKS GN for your help i dont want to try it my self so i am going to let the gunsmith do it and the trigger is set at 3 pds with no creep it is light and after he gets done poishing the crown i am going to work up a load i like the varget powder because hot or cold weather dont screw it up and i am going to try a SPSX or V-Max or a BT in a 50gr or some 52gr Match grade bullets i am want a bullet that will do a great job on a coyote when i get all of it done i will let u know thanks again

gunnut69 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 06, 2003, 09:21:40 AM »

Just a little note.. the SX versions of Hornadays bullets are designed to run at velocities under 3300 FPS.. You can drive them significantly faster from the 22-250. Accuracy WILL suffer, if indeed the bullets hold together at all... I would vote for the Vmax or the Nosler Balistic tips.. I've had great luck with both...especially the noslers...good luck from the gunnut69

varmit_master · « **Reply #10 on:** January 07, 2003, 01:01:29 AM »

Hi Gunnut69 i look up Hornady and they said u could run the 50gr SPSX up to 3600 max and it would be ok to shoot it my friend loaded some and shooting them 3800+ shooting threw a CHrony Graf. and they group good too but i am going to load mine around 3600 fps and try them out remeber keep them in the 10 ring or at lest in the black

CPB · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2003, 05:29:30 AM »

Varmit Master

If you are looking for a good place to start with a hand load for your 22-250, you might want to try Hornady 55gr V Max Moly Coat bullets with either Varget or IMR 4064 powder. I have had very good luck with these components. For an execelent factory load Hornady Custom in the same bullet gave me sub M.O.A.

Good Luck and Good Shooting

CPB :grin:

varmit_master · « **Reply #12 on:** January 10, 2003, 10:51:37 PM »

Black water and Gunnut69 i had my crown poilsh today i need to shoot it now and CBP i want to shoot 50gr bullets i know what varget and a 50gr BT will do to a crow :shock: and too a coyote :shock: after i group it i will get u know how it did thanks fellow hunters

varmit_master · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2003, 10:47:43 PM »

i had the gunsmith to do it i didnt want to screw any thing up lol i know with a factory bullet Win Sup S BT 50gr it will shoot a 3 shot group close to a 1/2 inch that was after getting the trigger work on too the gunsmith set it on 3 pds i love the trigger on it i have to work up a load now will set u know how it turns out thank for the help

gunnut69 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 15, 2003, 10:26:02 AM »

!/2 inch groups with factory ammo is quite good. With tailored ammo it should even get better... good luck and be safe from the gunnut69

varmit_master · « **Reply #15 on:** January 16, 2003, 12:05:56 AM »

Thanks Gunnut69 for your help i am going to have to work a load up if i ever get time off from work thank u for your help

I am CAL......... · « **Reply #16 on:** January 16, 2003, 05:17:35 PM »

VM, I have a 700 Rem.in 22-250 also.Had a smith to true the action , set the barrel back, lap the lugs,and recrown the barrel.The trigger is at 2# and the action is bedded.Made a big difference in the way it shot.I find the 55gr.Nosler Ballist Tip in a boat tail pushed with 38grs.Hogdon 380 powder to shoot the best group.One nickle size hole for 5 shots is not uncommon.I have heart problems and can't hold the rifle really still. Hope these suggestions help.Oh,my gun is in a wooden stock also. Would like to know how you make out? I am CAL........

varmit_master · « **Reply #17 on:** January 16, 2003, 11:46:50 PM »

Thanks I Am Cal i mite have too try a 55gr but i have about 400 bullets of 50gr BT i hope i can get my gun to shoot them good when i had a Howa 22 250 i loaded with 380 powder for it and a 55gr BT But when i got a Model 7 in a 22 250 it wouldnt shoot it so i read up on varget and i try it and i like it and my model 7 did to but it didnt like 55gr so i had to go back to a 50gr so i hope my new 22 250 like's varget and it shoots the factory 50grs GOOD i am going to try 37.0grs then move up to 37.5 that is the max i will let u know

I am CAL......... · « **Reply #18 on:** January 17, 2003, 08:45:49 AM »

Hello VM, I don't know about the Mod.7 what the twist is.I do know a slow twist(1 in 14) does prefer a light bullet. Good luck and waiting to here how ya make out.I am CAL....

varmit_master · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2003, 12:00:23 AM »

Hi Cal the new ADL i have it has the 24 inch barrel and a 1 in 14 twist so would i have better luck out of a 50gr than say a 55gr bullet can u let me more i would like to know more about this i will take all the help i can get thanks :grin:

I am CAL......... · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2003, 01:45:23 PM »

Hello

,I thimk the 1 in 14 will shoot the 50gr.bullets once you find the correct powder charge.I don't know if you can load them out far enough because they are so short.I like to get 10-15 thousands off the lands.This seems to work best for me.I will look tomorrow at my records and see if I don't have a load for a 50gr.bullet.I think I have just can't remember what it was.I am CAL.......

jamie · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2003, 10:24:50 AM »

If you are getting 1/2" groups with factory loads with just trigger job then you need nothing more from the rifle, you need to work your ammo. If you want match grade accuracy then use match grade components. If you have to mess with the rifle I would bed the action LAST. It is alot of work that can very well hurt as much as it helps if not done correctly. I have a 300 win mag that hung around 3/4" for along time, it actually stayed there until the gunshop ran out of the bullets I was using and I switched, then it dropped to 1/2" months later when I tried a different powder it dropped into the .3's. Your rifle is good, now just find the load it likes.

I am CAL......... · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2003, 11:51:14 AM »

Hogdon 380 powder was so named for the 38 grs. and a 55gr. bullet which many consider legendary.This is the load I use and it works good for me in both my 22-250s.I back off the lands and groves about 10 to 15 thousands where they shoot best.Hope this helps,would like to know if you try it and how it performs.Good luck,I am CAL......

varmit_master · « **Reply #23 on:** January 26, 2003, 09:54:34 PM »

Hi Cal i have tryed H 380 out of my Howa 22 250 it hot good out of it it wouldnt out of my Model 7 i started using Varget i like the way it shot out of my Model 7 and 2 of my friends shoots it out of there 22 250 i was reading about it i like that the TEP. or hot or cold dont screw with your loads and if it dont shoot any better than a 1/2 inch as lonfg has it shoots a 1/2 inch it will work for me all i am going to be doing is predator hunting with it when i get time i will reload and let u know how it does i hope to do this week