Hang in there Jim.Sounds like your luck is like mine :cry: .I hunt a patch of 377 acres behind the place I live in the city limits.Has hardwoods w/plenty of acorns,also lined with some pines,3 creeks running thru it.I saw deer all summer just about every single time I went in.Tracks everywhere too...............till bow season came in :cry: .I've been 5 times since the opening day (Oct.15) and I have seen nuttin.Thinks it might be time to take up another hobby :lol: ......................Rick