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Offline tbmaker

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« on: October 21, 2004, 03:49:32 PM »
Would you, 45 users, consider any of the cowboy loads out there sufficent enough for deer hunting under 50 yards. Are these cast bullets hard enough for hunting purposses.
Cowboy loads abound here but no one handles heavier hunting loads ( Garret, Cor-Bon ). I dislike mail order just because of the shipping charges. But if they won't work I'll pony up and get the good stuff.
$18.50 PMC 45-70 rounds totaled $30.00 from a mail order outfit.

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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2004, 04:09:57 PM »
First, I don't think I would use cast bullets in the 45. You should also forget the weak "cowboy" loads and go with as strong a load as your pistol can handle.

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2004, 05:40:10 PM »
I wouldn't use the cowboy loads for deer. They are loaded down and the bullets are almost round nosed except for a slight flat nose. At the least I'd go with a SWC cast slug with a broad flat nose moving at 900 fps or more.

MidwayUSA sells heavy-loaded Grizzly and Buffalo Bore ammunition in 20 or 50-round boxes. It would be fine in stout Ruger or Freedom Arms revolver. MidwayUSA is fair with the shipping; it has quite a few carrier options.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2004, 05:45:08 PM »
I know my Ruger Blackhawk will handle what ever is out there.
I don't think there is anything wrong with cast bullets if their cast proper.
We are talking deer.
I agree though that you can't have too much gun.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2004, 05:49:12 PM »
Midway's Grizzly loadings are not available yet. Seriously looking at Buffalo Bores loadings and yes Midway is better at real shipping prices.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2004, 06:28:24 PM »
TBmaker, A good load that John Linebaugh gave me years ago consists of a 250 gr cast LBT WFN or a 250gr hornady xtp over 13gr of hodgons hs6. For about 1000 fps, plenty for deer. No liability assumed by either John or Myself. Start lower and work up. Regards Byron
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2004, 03:11:05 AM »
I second the no-cowboy loads.  They are designed for a completely different use, and their slow, round-nosed lead bullets are not suited for hunting.  They will kill of course, but others will do a much better job.

While I prefer jacketed bullets for deer hunting with my .45LCs, I have used cast bullets on a number of deer.  To work properly, cast bullets must have flat noses, and the larger the flat the better.  My favorite cast bullet - don't laugh - is the Lee 250 RF.  It has a long bearing surface for it's size, a very large meplat, and it sits deep in the large .45LC case for better loading density, especially with bulky powders like BlueDot.  For loads in the 1000-1200 fps range it is accurate and very effective.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2004, 03:18:00 AM »
You might want to check out Bruin also.  http://www.bruincartridge.com/
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2004, 04:03:48 AM »
If you are not a handloader you need to bite the bullet and order some good hunting ammo or start handloading...... start handloading .....did I say start handloading....... :grin:
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2004, 10:13:21 AM »
Reloading will be a winter pursuit, I hope, just getting something together for this deer season.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2004, 05:25:58 PM »
Local shop has a nice supply of PMC 300gr. soft points. Comes with a note inside to be used in only modern handguns. Quite the recoil difference between cowboy loads I was practicing with and these 300gr slugs.
Now I just need a deer close enough.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2004, 05:35:42 AM »
Most of the guys on the Thompson Center forum will have the Load-Books USA manual for loading Thompson Contender.  This book has great loads for modern Contender and Ruger firearms.  300 gr bullets are fine for close range...but entirely OVERKILL.  In my opinion...you would be better with something that kills deer, but dosent kill you.  They aint gonna have a very good trajectory for reaching out a little either. A 200-225 gr bullet is very sufficient to take down any deer and you could shoot them all day at the range and have a lot of fun.  When you get into 250 gr and up...you are starting to get punished.  I use 13.0 grs of Unique for 200 gr bullets @1349 fps...but using Unique with 260 gr bullets is very painful...26.5 grs of Winchester 296 will move a 260 gr bullet @ 1421 fps with reasonable recoil. (these are max loads, start 10-15% lower)
  Also...if you want to get started loading with little cost...get a Lee Loader...it is just a small hand-held loader that can be had for less than 20 bucks...even when you graduate to a proper press, you will still enjoy your little Lee-Loader..they are a lot of fun to take to the range for load developement.  They come with a little plasic scoop to measure the powder..and you can get other size scoops for different loads.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2004, 04:08:58 PM »
actualy i have been looking at them aero tiped 45 cal muzzle loader bullets from honady  im thinking of tryen them in my encore from a 45 colt case but im going to have to call an see what they say about shooting it from it
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2004, 01:24:48 AM »
Thanks Robert, I'll keep that information in mind for later.
Wayne
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