Author Topic: I feel a little silly..... (Read 1102 times)

flyingcircusboy · « **on:** May 12, 2005, 10:38:11 AM »

I just bought a Winchester model 70 in 6.5x55 Swedish. I want to buy a synthetic stock for it but don't know if it is long action or short. My guess would be long but I a m a bit of a neophyte and don't really trust myself. Thanks, FCB

SR James · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2005, 03:44:49 AM »

I also have one and I love it. Its a long action. Bell and Carlson make a synthetic specifically for the Featherweight. It comes in a wide variety of colors and camo patterns and runs around $150 or so. There are other synthetics available as well for more or less money than the B&C.

Buckfever · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2005, 03:57:17 AM »

Sir, I have had great results with this caliber and handloaded 140gr Nosler Partitions. Just lays them down. I don't reload but my buddy does! Hornady also makes a good factory load in a 140 gr. This caliber is a sleeper, has got some real knock down out to 250 yards. It also is not much on the recoil side, great carry weapon. Good luck. Buckfever

Slamfire · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2005, 02:50:27 PM »

It has to be a long action, the cartridge wonlt fit in a short one.

Graybeard · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2005, 12:45:44 PM »

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It has to be a long action, the cartridge wonlt fit in a short one.

Wrong. A common misconception but still wrong. The 6.5x55 and the 7x57 will both work fine thru short action rifles. Sure you can seat bullets out longer in a long action but they do work fine in short actions with an over all cartridge length of about 2.800" or so. In a way it seems a waste to use a long action for such short rounds as you might as well go to the full 2.5" case length if you're gonna use a long action.

Ramrod · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2005, 05:15:20 PM »

Graybeard is correct, and I believe Winchester currently chambers the 6.5 Swede only in the short action. But I also think the perfect action for this cartridge, and all the 57mm length rounds is the one with the proper design for them, the 1898 Mauser.

jro45 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 15, 2005, 06:14:17 AM »

What is the max case length for short action? Does anyone know?

S.S. · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2005, 08:34:33 AM »

You will be very pleased with the 6.5 Swede cartridge.
I have a Swedish Mauser for it and it is a deadly accurate
cartridge.

Slamfire · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2005, 04:58:16 PM »

Quote from: jro45

What is the max case length for short action? Does anyone know?

For the most part the magazines are 2.8". Kind hard to insert cartridge that needs a 3.0" col into the magazine, but I suppose you could load 'em individually as long as the case itself would clear the ring on the way out. The really old pre '64 Savages were 2 7/8", just a touch longer.

Yes Remington chambered the .257 Roberts in the Model 722 and short action 700, and how many rifles did they sell. The perfect action length for the ?x57 cartridges is the Brazilian and Mexican Mausers that are just a bit shorter than normal Mauser actions.

If Winchester wants to copy Remington's marketing techniques they won't be around much longer. :roll:

kombi1976 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2005, 02:36:21 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard

The 6.5x55 and the 7x57 will both work fine thru short action rifles. Sure you can seat bullets out longer in a long action but they do work fine in short actions with an over all cartridge length of about 2.800" or so. In a way it seems a waste to use a long action for such short rounds as you might as well go to the full 2.5" case length if you're gonna use a long action.

That may be the case, GB, but I rather think it defeats the purpose of picking a 7x57 over a 7mm-08.
The advantage of a 7x57, and advantage it is, is the ability to seat the longer, heavier bullets in it as they don't intrude into the powder space like they do on a 7-08.
If you "lever" them into the shorter mag of a short action rifle you lose the ability to do that.
I question whether the original 173gn cupro-nickel jacketted military round for the 7x57 would fit into a short action.
Correct me if I'm in error but the attractiveness of the 7x57 is it's effectiveness across a range of bullet weights.
The same applies to the Swede for that matter.
If you put them in a short action you have at least 4mm to 6mm less to play with when seating bullets.
Why bother? :roll:
At the end of the day the short action cartridges were designed to drop ammo weight and to allow easier feeding in auto rifles.
I'll grant you it also cut an inch or 2 off the length of a bolt rifle and a reasonable amount people say this means more compact mountain rifles.
But no one seemed to whinge about the performance of the 30-06, 270 or 30-30 they used before short action rifles were marketed.
I personally believe too much money is spent telling the world that short actions are the only ones worth having. :?
But, hey, that's just my opinion. :wink: :wink: