I have both the 917V and 917VS, and my hunting partner has a 917V also. Bench shooting on a good rest will yield .5"-.7" 5 shot groups with 3 or 4 of those touching if there is no wind. With a little wind those groups will open to an inch or a little less. This is after 300-500 rounds or so down the bore for a good break in. I have Rifle Basix triggers in both of mine and that helped a lot in reducing group size, the factory triggers are a bit heavy with a fair amount of creep. The VS barrel was floated from the factory, the V required a bit of sanding to float it completely. From what I've read, the Savage is just as good, the Rugers, some shoot well, but require trigger work also. For the money, I don't think you can beat the Savage or Marlin. I'd get either and put the rest of the money you saved by not buying the Ruger, towards good glass.