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Offline henry1

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« on: November 05, 2004, 03:45:52 AM »
Hey there everybody, I was thinking about geting a 243 barrel for my NEF but I heard that it tends to tear up the hide. I would kinda like to save the hide that way i can tan em. My real question is will a .223 kill a yote at 300 yds? What grain of bullet should I be shooting? Right now I am set up for Prariee dogs with speeds of 3700fps and a 40gr nos balistic tip. Will this bullet expand to fast on yotes at 250 yds? What should I use for good damage and good penitration? I am using 23gr of IMR 4198 right now. The only reason for the .243 would be for those long shots. sugestions and info welcome. Thanks guys. Henry.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2004, 05:08:04 AM »
I personally don't think a .223 will dispatch a yote at that range, but if you have the skill you could pull it off.
With respect to the .243, you could send more weight down range, and better velocity as well than the .223. Bullet selection determine pelt damage. At three hundred yards, the .243 will be better.  :D
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2004, 05:50:15 AM »
I believe it's doable but the 22-250 or even better yet, the .243 would be a better choice. The salesman who sold me my .223 UV said he killed a yote at over 500yds with his, but he's a salesman. :-)  I compared the ballistics of the 50gr accutip in 22-250 and .223 rem, at 500yds the .223 has 273ft/lbs energy compared to 372ft/lbs for the 22-250. Their long range drop chart didn't have the same zero for them, the 223 was a 200yd zero and had 45" of drop at 500yds, the 22-250 had a 250yd zero and 30" of drop at 500yds. I think if most of my yote shootin was at over 300yds, I'd choose a .243, .270, .280, 7mm-08 or .25-06 as the best tool in Handi calibers.

PS, maybe GB will move these posts to the NEF Centerfire forum?
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2004, 01:55:52 PM »
i shot a wood chuck at 247yds (LAZER RANGEFINDER) and thats a long ways out.a week before i shot at one 7 times at around 325 yds and never touched him.he was in grass and i had no idea where the bullets were hitting.a 223 zeroed at 300 will kill a yote of chuck but i would restrict the 223 to 250yds and closer.

the chuck i shot at 247 had no exit hole.the bullet still blew up.55gr Nosler BT bullets are used out of my handi rifle.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2004, 04:48:20 PM »
The 243 will definately outdo the 223 at longer range, but I'm not sure how the 55-60gr pills do at that range.  I'd get a 22-250 if that was the only bullet weight I was going to use.

If you go to a heavier bullet, as say a 75-85gr then your long range performance will be much better, but at a price.

When I shot yotes at 250+ with an 85gr HPBT from my Savage 243, it left a hole you could put your fist in.

Sierra makes a 63gr bullet designed for heavier game and slow twist rifles (read Handi) that would retain a lot of energy at 300yds, but I do not know how well it would do on coyotes.

I'd say try a good 55gr varmint bullet at 300yds and make shot placement for heart lung/broadside shots only, until you see for yourself.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2004, 01:26:50 PM »
Ok, thanks for all the info. If I have enough money I mite buy the 243 in a handi barrel. I appriciate all your input.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2004, 03:01:08 PM »
I've killed coyotes at 380 yds. but with out much punch left.It didn't knock the stuffings out of them like my 220 Swift and they would manage to get up and move some. The 40 gr. Vmax's did not exit either.  Digger
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2004, 03:33:16 PM »
A .223 in the proper hands can kill a human target at 500 meters no problem.... why can't you kill a coyote at this range?
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2004, 03:40:41 PM »
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A .223 in the proper hands can kill a human target at 500 meters no problem.... why can't you kill a coyote at this range?


I agree with you, with a small exception.  Most 223 loads ment for mankind at those ranges use a much heavier-for-caliber bullet, say 60-70gr and it keeps more downrange energy.

Besides, we are wimps compared to wild animals when it comes to taking on lead.

If someone were going after yotes at consistant ranges of 300+, I'd stick with the 243 and load with 60-75gr bullets, whichever was the most accurate.  Those 85gr bullets tear up a coyote at closer ranges.

But he will NOT walk away from a solid hit.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2004, 07:33:53 PM »
I have five .223s, and I would not attempt to shoot anything beyond 250 yards with one.  After 250yrds they start getting erratic, and the least little breeze blows them around.  At 200 yards they are tack drivers, at 250 so so.  Beyond 250 I either use a .243 or 06.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2004, 03:47:14 AM »
K thanks guys i realy appriciate the info. I think that i will try some heavier bullets once I get some money saved up.
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