These are the ones you earn your money on. I have even taken a sharp bit and heated the cutting surfaces a bright red, quenching in cold water. The bit WON"T last but wil cut nearly anything until one of those cutting edgess chips. Also one can pick up some number 31 cobalt bits. These bits are super tough and will drill nearly anything. Oh and just to sort of lighten your day,, after it's drilled your still gonna have to tap that hard sucker... I usually use a large nail with the end turned to fit the hole(before threading of course). Insert it into the drilled hole and heat the nail glowing red hot, the whole nail. Use a 20 penny spike and allow the nail to cool on it's own.. The hole will be nicely annealed but not the complete receiver ring.. IOWEGEAN's advise should always apply!!