Maybe this is not as rare as I think.... cause I am not into big bores. I like them little bullets zinging along at machxxx. Digger, you and Like2hunt, this is in your part of the USA. I found a MINT 450 Marlin in a handi. Laminated stock with checkering. I thought it was brand new, thought I had discovered the new mysterious cartridge, but no. The serial number started HPxxxx. I think this makes it a 1999 model if I counted right. Anyone really interested I will tell all. For a fee of course. :roll: Not really, anyone interested the info is free. Was a really nice gun, but man, what a hole in the end of the barrel. They were asking $275 and might deal a bit.