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Offline traditionalhunter

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« on: December 13, 2004, 01:06:45 AM »
I have located a pond about 1/4 of an acre.  It has cattails completely around the whole pond.  There are about 8 muskrat huts in it.  One hut is atleast 5 ft tall and around 6 ft at the base and the others are normal size.  Anyone have any idea of how many rats can live together in such a small pond (there is a cut cornfield about 25 yards from the pond)?  There are active feedbeds everywhere in the pond so I know that there are rats in it.  I have never saw a hut as big as the one in this pond.  Is this unusual?

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2004, 04:59:16 AM »
TH, the big rat house is pretty normal.How big are the other huts? the smaller ones may be feeder huts.
 Small bodies of water,can produce some real good numbers of rats when the food source is good.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2004, 06:02:39 AM »
The smaller huts stand about anywhere from 2-3 ft high and about the same diamater at the base.  I am interested to see how many will come out of this pond.  TH.

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2004, 06:20:39 AM »
Sounds like a good place to take the cream off the top and leave some for seed so it continues to produce year after year.  At these type of locations, I usually set as much as I see possible, check twice and move on. good luck~
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2004, 12:15:26 AM »
I trap a lot of rats out of little ponds that sound just like this one. One thing you want to watch too is those little mounds and/or any mound that is in "shallow" water versus the deeper located mounds. When things freeze up, the shallow or "feeder" mounds will be abandoned quickly and the deeper mounds will get all the visitors.
Every mound I've ever set in these little ponds has one or two well-defined little "runs" (they look like little ditches that a #110 will fit into quite well) and I simply blind set every little entrance run I can locate. We have soft bottom ponds here, so when you go sloshing up to the mound you have to move slowly so as not to kick up too much mud so you can see what the heck is going on underwater and where to make sets. When it is too muddy to see, or the wind is blowing and there is too much chop on the water surface to see below it, just carefully feel around with your hand, toe, or a walking stick for the runs. Be sure to set your #110s fairly solidly in that run...I use sticks, one long one that sticks up well above the surface for the stake, then a couple of smaller-pencil sized ones for stabilizing the trap. These smaller sticks go at angles through the top, outside jaw corners and cross slightly over the trap. This also helps direct the rat down through the trap and not around it. A good, well-defined run will sometimes get 3 or 4 traps in it, all at least 3 feet apart. I catch a lot of multiples by setting up the hot runs with several traps.
Just sold 33 rats that all came from one little pond surrounded by cattails. The pond had mounds, and bank dug dens alike. Had to break ice many mornings to check and empty traps, but it was fun and easy money. I averaged $2.50 on those finished December rats, too.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2004, 01:35:27 AM »
jim I know what you mean about breaking ice.  Checked traps on Monday and the pond was completely open.  Had a double on two nice coon.  Checked traps yesterday and had to break 1/8" of ice and only had 1 small rat.  It came from one of the deeper huts.  Like you said the shallow beds and huts were not touched yesterday.  This water did not freeze until later in January last year.  Hope this is not a sign of what the winter will be like in Ohio this year!  There is still a couple of huts that have some open water around them so I will contiue to set them.  I can't set the runs because I don't have any conis.  I need to get some.  Did you sell your rats through NAFA or a local buyer?  Trying to decide what to do with mine when I sell.  TH

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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2004, 03:12:55 AM »
I just sold through a local buyer. I keep telling myself that one of these years I might try an auction, but haven't made that leap yet. I have several decent buyers within an hour drive of my home, so that helps too.
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