I stand corrected, I read wrong, didn't see the BT missing??? I know every rifle is different, I'm thinking about trying a box of the 53's w/o the BT. One thing about the 52 HPBT, they will definitely put a hog down. In the past I've killed hogs with this bullet in the .222, this past weekend with my fireforming loads. I know many people would hesitate to use the .22 cal bullets on a hog, I normally shoot them in the head, but this one stepped forward and which up right in the shoulder. She weighed around 250 and wouldn't have fallen any faster with my .308. You would not believe how much damage the little bullet did, had to do a great deal of trimming on both shoulders. Thanks for the replies!!!