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« on: December 22, 2004, 03:58:16 AM »
i have a cz 452 lux in .22mag.  i love it! it,s very well made, very accurate! and was only $275 i think?  it also has an adjustable trigger!

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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2004, 06:47:35 AM »
I think that the .22 mag. is to lite for the job. If your looking for a factory round the .17 Rem. would be the most fur friendly and the .204 Ruger should also be fur freindly and have more range. If your looking for an inexpencive round the .223 would be a good choice and use the 35 and 40 gn. bullets if your hide hunting.

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2004, 07:02:11 AM »
The 22 magnum is too light for coyotes unless it's a shot under perfect circumstances, which is rarely the case when actually hunting a coyote.

I use a 22 Hornet for most of my calling, and it does a way better job on coyotes than a 22 magnum ever will. If you're looking for a cheaper factory available proposition, then go with a 223.

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2004, 01:11:10 PM »
Jerry Lester and I agree completely on this.  The .22 WMR is way to light under most conditions.  A good .22 Hornet is very quiet and has never bothered any farmers that I have ever come in contact with.  A Ruger 77/22 in .22 Hornet is a light weight rifle and after changing triggers for a Timney adjustable one they are tack drivers.  Forget the .22 WMR idea and get a bigger rifle like the Hornet for the job.  Lawdog
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2004, 04:27:25 PM »
CK,
  I concur that the 22 Mag is on the light side, BUT...... If that is what you have to work with, I think you should go for it. I have taken quite a few coyotes with my 22 mag. I never took it out when actually going for coyotes, but had several coyotes fall to it while I was out and about with it in the truck. I would hate to see you be discouraged from persuing coyotes, even if all you have is a slingshot. We are overrun with them and need to take a bunch of 'em out. Good luck with your project and if you have trouble finding coyotes where you live, come see me out here in Wyoming.............
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2004, 05:52:44 PM »
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I don't want to be the one to throw cald water on a project BUT. Always a but HUH. In most calling situations the yote is coming in and he is very suspicious and prone to dart one way or another and you are not going to get the ideal shot you would like to have, I feel like you would be better off with the hornet or a 222, 223 which will give you the advantage of getting a stoping shot in. If you are in the type of country that will afford you some close shots i would strongly recomend the hornet. They are more farmer, Rancher friendly as well as pelt friendly. There are some real good loads for the hornet that will more than get the job done. I know you will do as you please as i would but just had to add my 2 centavos, Good luck and Merry CHRISTmas and a happy new year.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2004, 06:51:04 PM »
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i'm a little shocked that you guys think the .22mag is a little light.  i've dropped three with that bolt action .22mag i use to have, sure wish i still had it.  they were all close range head shots <75 yards, but they still dropped right where the stood and never took another step.  all three of these were basically "chance" coyotes, it was before i really started hunting coyotes and i just lucked into the position.  maybe i should just scrap the whole idea and go with a .223.  i've got several other bigger calibers that will do a coyote in, and i'm not really doing it for the hides.  i was just thinking of something light with quick follow-up shots to play with and maybe use on ground hogs this spring as well.  i sure wish a good accurate semi-auto .223 was half way affordable...guess i'll have to either go with a bolt or save a bunch of pennies and build up a flat top AR15...


I agree that with a perfect shot the 22 magnum will do it. Like you just said, you killed three with head shots. The problem is, when you're actually "hunting coyotes", you pretty much have to make the best of the limited shots they might give you.

Last year, I had a very nice coyote standing broadside at about 30 yards in the wide open. The only problem was that he managed to stop with his daggone head behind the only single little sprig of brush in a 200 yard radius of me(night time/wide open fields). I had to take a chest shot. I had my 22 magnum, as I was actually after red foxes. I put one right behind the shoulder, and he bucked up, and ran. I popped him running(somewhere), and he went down hard. When I stood up, he jumped up, and started limping off pretty fast. I hit him three more times before he got over a little knoll, and out of sight. I know I hit him, because I could hear the thumps on him at each shot.

There was a frozen snow on, and the blood trail was very easy to follow. I tracked him for a good mile, untill he just finally quit bleeding. There's no doubt in my mind that that coyote died. He just didn't do it quick enough for me to find him. That was about a week after I had the exact same thing happen with a nice bobcat, while hunting grey foxes in the mountains.

If I had to choose between a 22 magnum for coyotes, and a 30-06, I'd go with the big gun, and just deal with sewing up pelts. At least you'd have a pelt to sew up.

I'm not trying to rag nobody for there choice of calibers, and definately not trying to discourage anybody. I'm just offering my educated opinion on it. I'm no professional caller, but I do have a few years(and mistakes) under my belt, and I've learned what I know the hard way. I work very hard for my predators, and nothing hurts worse than to finally get one in range, only to lose it because of something as un neccessary as too little of a gun.

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2004, 02:38:30 AM »
The only coyotes I have shot have been on a chance meeting basis. The last one was a large male at about 250 yards. I used my Remington 700mp .223 on him. Handloads with a 40gr ballistic tip.
 When I squeezed the trigger it was like someone dropped a 500 lb anvil on him. I was very impressed, took him right thru the front shoulder.
 I would look at a .223, if light weight is important, Ruger & Remington offer some sweet options in a bolt gun.

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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2004, 03:59:05 PM »
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I have a 16"barrel Contender Carbine in .223 with a Rynite stock.  It weighs about 5 lbs scoped.  It would make a dandy walk around varmint gun.  Too bad the conservation area I hunt doesn't allow centerfires.    
 
I used the same gun last season with a 22 mag barrel.  Hit one I called in right behind the shoulder at about 40 yds, he ran off and I never found him.
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2004, 04:21:59 PM »
If I was hunting an area were I could use centerfire I would go with the centerfire .22hornet  .223 22-250 204 etc. etc.

When I have a choice the centerfire always gets the nod.Now that being said alot of areas most WMAs only allow rimfire or shot gun with #4 shot only no buckshot.In these cases the .22mag always gets to go.I have always done well with it on these places but,you have to make your set ups different.I have swicthed to the rem 33g v-max and have done well but,cant hit the shoulder.
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2004, 03:40:57 AM »
Use what you have.  Here in Wyoming, dog shooting isn't as much of a sport as it is protection.  I have seen coyotes shot with .22 lr.  If you do your part, a .22 mag will do the job.  Coyotes are just dogs, not a big game animal.
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2004, 03:45:53 AM »
Finally. Someone that appartently has the same opinion about coyotes that I have. I say, if you only have a slingshot, take the shot and then cuss at 'em. If you can't hurt'em, at least try to insult 'em.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2004, 04:26:51 PM »
I shot a lot of predators with the 22 mag while living in michigan.  YOu can only use a rimfire at night in MI.  I had both a 96/22 and the 10/22mag.  I actualy sold dht 96/22 to get the 10/22 mag.  It was a great night calling rifle.  Topped with a compact 3-9 and had a 2 cell mag light tapped to the forend.  Out to 100 yards it work flawlessly on everything I shot with it.  The only animal I had to shoot more than once was a large, 42lb, coyote.  I nailed him three times twice a little far back and the last time in the boiler room.  It wasn't perfect shot placement so you can't fault the 22 mag.  Now that I live in alaska I perfer the 223.  I just got this Bushmaster and think it will be about ideal for all around medium range predator calling.  Its a Bushmaster 25th aniversery modular 16 with a 10x40 mildot Bushnell Elite 3200.   I got the Elite 3200 after hearing all the great things about them here on this forum.  I'll let you know how it works out.  I think it will be fine until I get the money around for a nightforce 2.5-10x24 thats made right for it.

 

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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2005, 05:53:52 PM »
If what you have is a .22 Mag or what your limited to is a rimfire take the .22 Mag and don't look back, do your part in taking and making good shots and it will work great. It does for me and many others. As a learned and experienced poster said, they are just dogs Would you feel under gunned if you had to shoot a 35-40 pound dog with a gun? Of course not. By the way use good jacketed ammo, not some cheap lead plinking or target ammo....<><.... :wink:
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