LOL safetysheriff, So the model 70 doesn't stand up against a model 700 according to what you have read. Man get off the sofa and do some shooting! :grin: I have owned both rifles and there is no practical difference between them that I can tell. I still have a 70, pre-64 30-06, and a 700, an old 25-06,. I like them both but they have been resting in a safe for many years, only see daylight to get a good cleaning. They were my Dad's now they are retired. Both are great shooters as are all the 70s and 700s I have owned.