Sidekick NON-sabot projectiles??

[DoubleA]

Hello all,
I just ordered a Sidekick 26' from Cabelas, should be here within a week.  My problem is I can't use sabots in Colorado.  I need some advice on non-sabot projectiles.  Please provide links to websites if you have them, and load data.  Practice/cheap projectiles are always good, and hunting projectiles as well.

I currently have the website for the No Excuses.
http://www.muzzleloading-bullets.com/page4.html

Thanks,
~DoubleA~

[243tom]

Would PowerBelts be considered a sabot?  If not,,they shoot great from my sidekick. I'm using 777 pellets (2 x 50grs) and 295 gr bullet and with the gun scoped I can put 3 into a 3 inch target at 75 yards. And they load easy even after a few shots.

[DoubleA]

I'm not sure if they're legal, but I do know that they are expensive..

[jbtazgrabber]

i got a tompson ceter mode makes a 350 gr. bullet got a pointed tip they shoot good out of my huntsman allmost as good as sabots,as soon as i get moved and weather lets me get out im going to try a couple other bullets.......i use rs. pryo and 80 gr. hope this helps ..JB

[Busta]

DoubleA,

The 460 grain No Excuses shoot great out of my Huntsman 24" Stainless Steel barrel. Make sure you get the ones that are .503, they engrave lightly on loading. I shoot them over 70 grains of 777 FFG and average around 1-1/4" @ 100 yds. Just remember "the bullet length cannot exceed twice the diameter of the bullet", so you are basically limited to a 1.00"  long bullet.

The PowerBelts also shoot good and are also legal in Colorado. 80-90 grains of 777 under a 295 grain or 348 grain should get you close. I prefer the 348 grain. Good luck.

[DoubleA]

Thanks for the replys so far, sounds like a few great options for game projectiles.  Anyone have any good ideas for range/plinkin non-sabot projectiles???

~DoubleA~

[tscott]

I can't believe Powerbelts would be considered a sabot. I have found 295
hollowpoints with 777 (90 gr) to be my most accurate load at 75 yds.
I shot a nice 8 couple months ago, at approx. 125 yds, and the accuracy held. Cost? I just got back from Wallmart, where they were selling 245 aero tip $5 for 12. Never tried these before. I guess I'll find out. Also a lb of powder was 7 bucks. I guess they are dumping their blackpowder supplies...

[simonkenton]

I will get out  my ouija board, and predict that you will like the 295 Powerbelt a lot more than the 245.

[DoubleA]

None of you all are using cheap lead non-sabots?  Guess I can try the reloading area.

Thanks for all the inputs..

[corelokt308win]

I cast my own maxi-balls, however I sent my muzzleloader back as inaccurate and the factory sent back a target with the holes touching at 45 yards using powerbelts.  I plan on playing a bit more and figuring out for sure whats wrong with my loads.  Obviously however, powerbelts work.

[Rwalter63]

My sidekick 26" really likes the 295 powerbelts. It shoots 2" groups at 100 yds with out a problem using 100 grains of 777. I tried using the same 100 grain 777 charge with the 245 powerbelts and they were all over the target. I going to try a lighter load and see if they shoot better next time out. I personally would work on setting up the load that you plan to hunt with first. Then when you have got the time try some of the cheaper lead bullets. I just purchased my sidekick last fall and that is my plan at least. I suprised that the powerbelts are not considered a sabot though. Good luck and if you find a good lead round for your Sidekick let me know I plan on giving them a try later this spring.

[Bob W.]

my sidekick shoots the Hornady Great Plains conicle bullet quite well and they look mean too.  Sadly I can't comment on the terminal performance yet.

[DoubleA]

Thanks for all the replys.  I'll let you all know if I find an okay cheap all lead round to use for plinking and what not.  I like to shoot a lot, and won't be able to afford powerbelts all the time.

[jbtazgrabber]

tc sell the 365 gr. bullets i make ....jb

[DoubleA]

I got this info from another post asking the same question, quoted from Lonewolf

DoubleA: check out Midsouth they have a closeout on powerbelts
I also don't have the time to cast conicals ,go and do a search Black Jack Hill on e bay,here is a guy that cast the REAL conicals . I myself do purchase the REAL in 320 and 380 grain, his price which includes shipping is $ 11.00 bucks for 50 rounds ,so it about 20 cents a round.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/

http://stores.ebay.com/Black-Jack-Hill-Hunting-and-Fishing_Black-Powder-Supplies_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZ1QQsclZallQQsotimedisplayZ2QQtZkm

Found his website, he has everything
http://blackpowder.blackjackhill.com/50cal.html