You know, everyone keeps touting the .223 for long range shooting, even placing it against the .243. I shoot at long ranges all the time, 300 yards and beyond. The .223s that I own will not shoot accurately beyond 250 yards. I own a T/C R, a Ruger M-77, a Remington 700, and two Handis, in .223. My .243s all outshoot them, they are T/C R, Ruger M-77, and a Handi. The .243s will reach out and touch things 500 yards and beyond.