OK tjf76, please don't shoot the messenger but here is what I think the value is...$70 in near perfect condition to about $45 to $50 not perfect look wise but perfect mechanically, and at lower end from a friend. I understand they are found quite often used for $50, but not around here! Shops (as opposed to private sales which are less) usually have them for about $70.00 used in this area....<><.... :grin: