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Offline Dali Llama

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Gun curbs enrage South Africans
« on: January 10, 2005, 08:19:57 AM »
Gun curbs enrage South Africans  
Rory Carroll
January 6, 2005
South Africa's licensed gun owners are furious about a new law which could force millions to hand over their weapons - removing what some consider their only defence against rampant crime.

All legal guns must be re-licensed over a five-year period starting this week, and thousands of applications have already been rejected or snagged in red tape.

Critics of the firearms control act say it is an attempt to disarm law-abiding citizens while leaving criminals armed and free to rape, rob and kill.

The government and gun-control activists defend the legislation as urgent and necessary for a country with one of the world's highest rates of gun-related crime.

"Without this, I'm a sitting duck," said Craig Rissik, a Johannesburg taxi driver, who fears that the licence for the revolver he sits on will not be renewed.

Crime has soared over the past decade since the fall of apartheid, and many citizens have bought licensed guns.

There are at least 2.5 million registered owners of up to 4.5 million guns - more than the army and police combined. In addition, there are thought to be up to 4m illegal guns, many smuggled from Mozambique after its civil war ended.

A three-month amnesty allowing people to hand in unlicensed guns free from prosecution started this week.

Advertisements abound for pistols, rifles and shotguns. So many people carry weapons that places which ban them - such as certain retail and leisure outlets - feel compelled to offer free storage.

The police complain that licensed owners often do not know how to use their guns, or allow them to fall into criminal hands. Many firearms are reported lost or stolen.

The number of recorded murders fell below 20,000 in the year to last March - the lowest annual figure for a decade - but at 42.7 per 100,000 people, the rate was still one of the world's highest. Almost half of the deaths were thought to be gun-related.

Recent high-profile cases included a football referee who shot a player during a match and a father who killed his daughter after mistaking her for a thief driving off with the family car.

Under the new gun control legislation, owners are now obliged to re-license. The law automatically denies guns to drug or alcohol abusers, spouse beaters or others inclined to violence or "deviant behaviour". It raises the legal age of ownership from 16 to 21 and limits most people to one weapon for self-defence and a maximum of four others for other uses such as hunting.

Each applicant must complete an accredited training course and be cleared by a police background check involving interviews with three acquaintances. They must also install a safe or strongbox for storage and prove to the police that they need a gun.

Owners who now need to re-license fear that the regulations have been deliberately made too rigorous and that they will be rejected and obliged to part with their guns or risk 15 years in jail for illegal possession.

Figures show that in the past six months, 71% of those seeking licences for new guns have been rejected, deepening suspicions that the law is designed to disarm most owners.

Most of the rejected applicants are reportedly black, and the Black Gun Owners' Association has given warning that people will resort to buying illegal firearms.

Gun dealers complain that sales have plunged from 15,000 a month to nearly zero and that they have had to refund money to customers whose applications have been rejected or stuck in the bureaucracy.

The government has acknowledged teething problems, but says legitimate applications will succeed. Groups such as Gun Free South Africa have welcomed what they hope will be a new era.

Could this happen in United States of America, ask Dali Llama?
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2005, 11:24:27 AM »
Yep the folks who sit on the fence better get their heads out of their butts and start joining pro gun groups as it is coming. THe UN wants to take away our guns as do the stinking liberals. So now we have a divided front to fight.  We are going to have to get a more united front to fight this fight in the future. Saw on a other site CBS is calling for a ban on the 50 BMG. They never stop trying to ban our guns so we have to never relax on the fight either.
Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use it.

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 01:28:59 AM »
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Saw on a other site CBS is calling for a ban on the 50 BMG.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2005, 04:58:48 AM »
Darn right this could happen in America.  In fact, it probably will.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 07:44:56 AM »
As BamBams states it can happen and probably will.  How we as armed citizens react to such a governmental demand will hopefully be the difference.  Reguardless of what a lot of people may think I still must feel there are fewer sheep in this country than any other.

I too saw the cbs bit on wanting a ban on the 50.  Although I've never had the urge to own 1, myself and a shooting buddy are now each thinking of buying 1 just because.  If the morons in the media had just kept their mouths shut there would have been 2 less for them to worry about.  I feel that what we spend our hard earned money on has a way of letting them know just how we feel.

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 01:26:05 PM »
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As BamBams states it can happen and probably will.  
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