actually Bill, i don't think you do want a new Chinese SKS. we get them up here in either standard model or the D variant. from what i've read on some of my Canadian boards the quality on them is non existent. for starters the barrels aren't threaded into the recievers, they are crush fitted and then a pin is inserted. what little quality control Norinco has is letting unsafe rifles slip through. i've heard tales of guys who have fired a few rounds through a brand new gun and the barrel just fell off. a friend of mine is getting into shooting and wants an SKS for a starter gun. i told him to save his money and by a new unissued, unfired Yugo M59 for $299 CDN or M59/66 for $329 CDN from Marstar. i'll probably get one myself. seems that the only thing Norinco can get right is the 1911, M-14, and there .22 rifles. these items are of very good quality and reliability, but the rest of there products......