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Offline Questor

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« on: January 14, 2005, 05:11:34 AM »
What are the real price performers in the 1911 world? I like the springfields and the low-end kimbers, but I'm sure there are others that should be in the list.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2005, 12:48:30 PM »
Colt.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2005, 07:21:44 PM »
Colt?  I better not touch this one.  *laughing*
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2005, 09:10:26 PM »
I second the vote for Colt!
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2005, 02:42:27 AM »
SW1911. Not low end material, not low end priced.. But it is a very nice pistol. They run around $690 if you find a good deal. It is much better to pay that now and have a good weapon than pay less and have to pour money into it to get it right.
The SW1911 has performed very nicely for me. I had one small issue in the beginning and that was due to a improperly fitted grip safety to firing pin lever deal. When I removed the slide, I couldn't get it back on because the firing pin safety lever would not let it clear. Some slight adjustments fixed this problem.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2005, 08:30:17 AM »
If I were buying my first 1911 .45 today, it would have to be the Kimber Custom.  Pretty tough to beat for the price.  44 Man
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2005, 12:49:51 PM »
That kinda reminds me of the car commercial that used to say ( Just like a Cadilac ) but it wasnt the same, I guess I would have to go with the original one they all want to be like, you know its just like a ( COLT ) :-D  :D    JIM

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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2005, 04:15:52 PM »
I just found a Springfield Mil Spec 1911 for $359.00, NIB!!!!! Shoots great, Pretty accurate too. This is the one that stays in my truck.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2005, 05:17:20 PM »
remember if it aint a COLT... its just a "1911 clone". 8)
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2005, 07:50:04 PM »
The springfield mil spec 1911 is a good choice as is an Auto Ordnance, if you can find one of the older models. Kahr makes junk...
 By the way Colt licensed other firms to make the 1911A1 during WW1 & WW2. The ones made by Singer are the most sought after and expensive followed closely by North American($20,000). Aint bad for a clone considering the same colt manf. runs about $1000...Dont be taken in by the name on the gun, if it works for you and you can afford it buy it. be it  a Colt, Kimber, Springfield etc.

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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2005, 04:40:15 AM »
personally i think kahr is pretty high quality. i have a mk9  9mm and like it a lot. i was thinking of trying out the new auto ords as kahr now makes them. i heard the old ones wouldnt shhot nothing but ball ammo and some wouldnt even do that good. your right about "whatever works for you"... thats the best gun anyhow.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2005, 04:53:26 AM »
Colt,if it was free and not a Colt I would trade it away.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2005, 07:39:39 AM »
Hey BDB, I didnt mean the Kahr line of handguns but the ones designated Auto Ordnance. I ordered one last year never did get the thing to perform. My old AO I have had about 35 years does extremely well with any ammo i shoot, be it hardball to hollowpoint. But again there are good and bad in any line of gun you buy.

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2005, 05:07:28 PM »
hate to hear that...was thinking of trying one.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2005, 04:27:45 AM »
If Colt is so good, why did they lose the market to everyone else? They really are a rare item today, and getting rarer.  It seems like the new Colts are more like copycats of the so-called 1911 Clones, which have, de facto, stopped being clones and have become the standard.  

It's a serious question. I'd really like to know what happened.
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Hmmm..funny response Questor
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2005, 05:48:54 AM »
I wouldn't call my Colt 1991 NRM Government a clone.  Let's see: New Roll Mark looks classical Colt, slide and frame are classic, barrel feedramp is new but unique to Colt's (and it works!), hammer is the same old spur type, standard grip safety, double diamond grips of old, plain long trigger without adjustment screw, standard recoil spring plug without guide rod, series 80 firing pin safety, and those basic Colt 3-dot sights with a stacked on front sight.

Did I mention any items that were copied from Kimber, Springfield Armory, Smith & Wesson, or the likes?  

If my assumptions are correct, the clone manufacturers gained their ground by adding traditionally gunsmith modifications to their 1911 copies.  Nice, but necessary?  I laugh at many of these forum entries. You'd think that the 1911 wouldn't function without a set of Novak sights and 3.5# trigger.  Without a full length guide rod, your recoil spring won't function.  

A hypothesis on what happened:
USPSA/IPSC, Bullseye Shooting, IDPA, and the likes created a huge gunsmithing and parts business for the 1911.  Over time, we became blinded to the functionality and simplicity of the original 1911 design.  Not only was it important to shoot well, your pistol needed to have the hottest new trends in parts and modifications.  Enter Kimber, Springfield Armory, Smith & Wesson, etc.  Granted they are catering well to the "novice" 1911 market, but are the extras they offer necessary?  When was the last time you saw someone stop in the middle of a pistol competition to adjust their adjustable rear sight?  Is that huge beavertail monstrosity really as concealable as a standard spur grip safety?  Is anyone really gripping that high on the frame, and if so, how do they keep the safety depressed?  

Granted, Colt's made some poor business decisions in recent times, but they still make a fine firearm.  If you need the frills, you may need to look at the "others".  If you want a gun to shoot, try a Colt.

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2005, 06:04:07 AM »
I have carried them all,the Bob Chowed was the best until the CGP which I now carry.
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