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Offline rp

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« on: February 11, 2005, 09:22:41 AM »
Are the two piece ramrods a good thing or a pain in the ars.

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2005, 04:41:38 AM »
They do what they were designed to do..........just takes a bit more patience.......and some searching/redesign thinking/machining a new end to accept 10-32 jags or brushes.
Read the other posts on this subject you can pick up alot of info.

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Pain In The Ass.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2005, 12:00:25 PM »
Hey,

     Just buy yourself a Range Rod and only use the two piece rod when hunting.  If you are shooting plastic, don't unthread the rod till you have seated the sabot as far down as it will go with the rod not opened.  Then use rod opened to seat bullet.  I shoot mostly conicals and have had not problem sitting them.  The Rod and the Breech Plug suck but, the Rifle is well worth the price and is a real shooter.  Enjoy :lol: .
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2005, 12:22:26 PM »
I agree with bjgolfnut, a range rod is a good investment for a muzzle loader. I found if you follow what bjgolfnut said about getting the bullet started down the barrel before extending the rod you will find it to be trouble free. I have used a short starter when starting the bullet down the barrel. Good luck and have fun. :lol:

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2005, 05:21:45 AM »
I noticed the rod tip on the Huntsman is flat. A CVA video I was watching said you should use concave tip for pointed bullets such as a polymer tip powerbelt and use a pointed tip that gets to the bottom of the hole to seat hollow point. Claim you deform bullet if you don't use right tip and affect accuracy. Ok to do this setup with range rod but if I put on the 8/32 adapter and the proper tip, the rod sticks out past the barrel.

Was wondering what you guys do as far as seating and loading pointed and hollow point power belts, sabots and conicals. Is there much of a difference?? I was thinking with the polymer tip, there could be an effect. Have you modified your Huntsman Rods in any way???

Solution I was thinking for hunting of was setting my bullet seater with the right tip and perhaps the huntsman rod would not deform it.

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Hollow and Pointed tips.
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2005, 10:01:51 AM »
Hey,

     I know on the old H&R site, someone once wrote about drilling into the end of the Brass Tip to seat Pointed and Polymer tip bullets.  I shoot only Conical and XTP's and have never needed a pointed tip :?  to seat a XTP.  Why would you have to get to the bottom of the bullet to seat it?  If I find that fix for the end of the rod, will post it.  Have a Great Day.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2005, 12:07:42 PM »
bjgolfnut, I have never damaged a XTP or conical with the tip that comes with the ram rod even though its flat. I had bought an extra ram rod about a year ago. I have a friend of mine that has access to a drill press. I am having him drill the extra tip so I can use it for polymer tip bullets like the Shock-Wave. I will let you know how that tip comes out or if we just damage it in the process. :oops: But, I think it will work. :D

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2005, 12:37:51 PM »
I wasn't clear, the tip for hollow points is suppose to seat at the base of the hollow point not the bullet. Any deformity would be at the base of the hollow point and not affect accuracy. The polymer tip bullets appear to be the most concern with the flat tip.

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2005, 05:30:29 PM »
JRSR, :D

For ballistic tip bullets, I drilled out the factory flat tip and then used a cone shaped grinder tip to form a cone to fit the pointed tip bullets. Here is a pic but a little fuzzy on the focus.
You can also just bore a straight walled recess (larger drill bit) and no need to taper with file or grinder tip. :grin:


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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2005, 05:55:21 PM »
Primer, Thats what I had in mind :wink: I will try it. I bet it does a good job with seating those polymer tips. :D

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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2005, 09:19:18 AM »
So back to the topic, Whats wrong with the breach plug?

I may get that Encore barrel yet  :roll:

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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2005, 04:18:57 PM »
If you do your part , you won't need a quick follow up shot and then it's not an issue. You can take a piece of 3/8 dowel, cut it to length . drill a hole in one end and put a curved tip on it. I forget the measurement but you push the bullet in, drop in the dowel and push the rest of the way. Remember to remove dowel. The dowel is easy to carry.  :-)
This eliminates the need to extend the ramrod .
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2005, 06:59:40 PM »
If I am not mistaken the threads on the sidekick and huntsmans ram rod are 8/32 and most standard muzzleloading accessories are 10/32. I bought a thread adapter that adapts the 8/32 threads back to a 10/32 thread so I can use the other size accessories. I picked it up at a local gun shop.