Thanks MSP...yea, he really enjoys shooting, both my boys do. The older one (11) shows promise. He may be competitive, must be the young eyes. And yes Deadeye, I own enough NEF product to know they have to be cleaned well. I usaully dis-assemble first thing, flitz the bore and chamber and scrub down real good. That is usually followed by the o-ring and some kind of trigger adjustment. Were really looking forward to this .223.