Well Dave bought 2 after I out shot his 3006 remington with my .223 ultra. Then again with the .308. Then he shot his shotgun and I used my old .58 H&R ML we both had cloverleafs at 50 so we went out to 100 and same thing. His was scoped mine iron sighted ....and it looks like we have another handi haulic in the making folks.