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Offline stymie

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« on: July 28, 2004, 01:33:42 PM »
The family are moving to alaska next year on a relocation for her work. Likely spots are Homer and Anchorage. Any thoughts of each good and bad...Also we are .308 fans do we need  358 or 35 whelan??
Any info or hints would be helpful..

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2004, 05:34:05 PM »
Homer is small, but fun. If you fish and can get your hands on a boat or find someone to take you out, you'll be up to your armpits in halibut and salmon. Anchor River and Anchor Point is a place that quickly comes to my mind for that kind of fishing, which ain't far from Homer at all.

For hunting, well, depends on what you want to kill. You're allowed to take two black bears in the unit that Homer is located in, but only in the spring and one in the fall (can't take both at the same time of the year). Lots and lots of blacks bear on the Kenai Peninsula. You can also get into some goat hunting down that way, via registration permit. Never hunted for goats, so can't say that much on it, but they are DOWN there. Same goes for Dall sheep.  And for moose. They are down there as well, and can hunt bulls with an over-the-counter harvest ticket that you can obtain at any 7-up or Texaco store. However, you can only legally shoot a bull that has spike-fork antlers or antlers with a spread of 50 or larger, or has three brow tines on at least one side.

The bads about Homer, in my opinion, is that it is small and you might get bored after a while, especially in the winter.

Now, for Anchorage.

Biggest city in the state, and a shitload of people (around 275k population, but might be wrong). I live about 60 miles north of Anchorage (in the Mat-Su valley, Wasilla to be specific) and I hate Anchorage. I only go to Anchorage because of work or for the Sportman's Warehouse. Many people who live in the valley, work in Anchorage. Many people commute to Anchorage on their way to work, and it can be hell, especially in the winter. With poor weather conditions (freezing rain and snow), don't be suprised to see people passing you and going around 75 mph with ICE on the roads. That's just about the normal speed for the city maniacs.

Well, now for the hunting oppurtunties around Anchorage.

THERE ISN'T ANY.

If apply for drawing permits, and are lucky enough to get drawn, you can hunt moose on the military bases that hug the Anchorage area. Muzzleloader or bow hunts only, and you need to be certified to hunt with a muzzeloader or a bow for special hunts (like drawing hunts for example) or in hunting areas that are open to primitive weapons.

Basically, if you live in Anchorage, you're going to have to travel to hunt.

For example, you can go outside of Palmer or Wasilla (both cities about 50 miles away from Anchorage) somewhere and hunt for moose, black & brown bears, and have success. Though, everybody's uncle and sister does this, and the "popular" areas with be crowded with people hunting moose. However, my last two bulls have been taken in the Wasilla and Palmer "areas". Shot one not far from the house and a small one just north of Palmer a ways.

And you won't be able to hunt caribou unless you get drawn for a caribou permit on the Kenai, or fly out, or drive way up north to get a caribou. You'll find the best hunting if you fly out, but that doesn't mean you can't kill an animal locally, just expect company.

Your 308 will do just fine, I think, for everything besides brownies and bison. Just use an approriate cartridge for whatever game you are chasing.

All of my hunts will be locally, except for one, and that is a caribou hunt that will take me up north.

I'm nowhere near an expert on hunting up here, or anything like that. Not even close (I'm still learning!! :grin:). I was born and raised up here (23 years old), and all of my life has been spent in this area, so I do know some things about this area and what you can expect.

For fishing, the Mat-Su valley and the Parks Hwy is hard to beat in my opinion. Many creeks and rivers that have some really good salmon fishing, and there is many lakes that offer ample fishing year around for trout, pike, grayling, etc.

I hope some of this helps.

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Bored in Homer in the winter?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2004, 07:06:29 PM »
One of my old buddies lives in Homer and winter is his favorite time. Get a snogo and some cross country skis and have a ball. If that gets old try going to the school board and city council meetings  - there's almost always some sort of fuss.  If you have kids they have a nice hockey program down there - think there's a pool at the highschool but not sure.

Homer would be my first choice. Its beautiful - have you checked their chamber website?   If you have a boat you can get out for winter kings, crabbing, clamming and duck hunting, or just exploring on a nice day.  

We have a saying, Los Anchorage is about an hour from REAL Alaska - and I grew up there.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2004, 02:38:00 AM »
"Los Anchorage"  :)  :)  :-D  I like that!!

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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2004, 10:52:26 PM »
like they say, 40 minutes from Los Anchorage and you are in Alaska

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2004, 10:28:08 AM »
Homer is a nice place to visit, but it's isolated.  Five hours of one of the worst highways you will ever see.  Nice paved highway, but it runs through the Keni mountains, then over Turnagin Pass that sometimes is closed for a day or two due to being snowed in.  Then the Seward highway runs around Turnagin Arm, a body of water that is an extension of Cook Inlet.  You have water on one side and the Chugach Mountains on the other.  This area is prone to avalanches during the winter, is often closed for avalanche clearing.  When a big one comes down the highway can be closed for two or three days.  It seem everytime someone from Homer or Seward want to come to town in the winter they get caught and their schedule is thrown off due to avalanches.  Often they come to Anchorage and have to fly home leaving their car or truck in Anchorage to be picked up later.  Homer is a small town, and after a few months you get to know almost everyone.  Also like other small communities you get to know the ones you really don't want to know also.  Anchorage is a big city, with big city problems.  Just like living in the lower 48.

 As for hunting around Anchorage?  I recommend to my friends that move there.  Once a year spend from $250.00 to $1000.00 and get flown in for a quality hunt.  Sometimes you can do it for less, and still get a quality hunt.   But anyway you have a year to save up the money to do this each year. Either fly in to a good spot and be picked up later.  Or get dropped off for a good float trip.  Next week my neighbor is getting dropped off in the Alaska Range for Dall Sheep.  $500.00 to be dropped off. then a week later picked up.  He will have a quality sheep hunt, in most cases the hunt of a life time, only he does this once a year.  In September I'm going to drive up to Cold Foot, then get flown into the Brooks Range with my raft and dropped of for a float trip.  I'm retired and living on a fixed income, but I've had a year to plan and save for this trip.  It will cost between $500.00 and $1,500.00 depending on how many trips he has to make to fly us out.  In other words the more Moose, Caribou, Sheep, Bears, and Wolves we shoot the more it will cost to have them flown out.  

  Or you can do like most people around Anchorage.  Buy a fourwheeler $5,000.00 to $8,000.00, then a second one for the wife.  A boat $15,000.00 to $25,000.00, and only use it during the summer.  A snowmachine $5,000.00 to $8,000.00, then a second one for the wife.  Actually you will buy a second one, wheeler or snowmachine to get what you really want after you become dissatisfied with your first one and have to have a bigger one.  Then you will justify it by giving your first one to the wife.  Anyway Alaskian toys are expensive to own and maintain.  Anyway I recommend don't get caught up in that, it's cheaper to get flown in once a year, and have a quality hunt. Less people with higher success rate.
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Some good points Sourdough
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2004, 09:48:35 AM »
My wife convinced me it was cheaper to charter an air taxi now and then instead of getting a pilot's license ($5,000 +) and plane ($ 25,000++++++ including maintenance +++). Many good points on the spark plug toys.  I have to laugh at the folks I've met who buy a freezer, Winnebago,  boat, snogos, 4 wheelers, Weathebys - so they can shoot a moose and save $ on meat!!! :-D

But growing up in Anch in the 60's and driving to the Kenai regularly, I'd say you are over stating the problems of the drive. You should have seen it right after the big quake.  The current roads are divine compared to the ones I rode on as a kid.  True there are avalanches and the pass can be tricky in bad weather.  

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Sourdough = Sour on the country not enough Dough to leave
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2004, 04:43:27 PM »
Just got back from Los Anchorage myself.  I have made the 350 mile run 6-7 times this summer and it isn't bad.  (A .45 ACP with 230 HP's is a good carry gun in LA. I don't leave home without it. I was almost shot in a holdup get-a-way back in 2,000.)

Homer - ya Smallsville by some standards.  I lived in Shaltoolik - 180 people.  So Homer is better.  What everyone else is saying is true and you might just be better doing some charters.  On forums like this and others you can make many good connections.  Distances up here are meaningless to many.  I don't think anything of driving to Fairbanks to scout moose or 75 miles out to the islands to deer hunt. Hell.....half the fun up here is the trip.   :)

But at least in Homer you have halibut, claming, salmon, shrimping, bears, moose, prospecting and a whole lot more.  During the off season from the others yo prepare for the next season and on and on......
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2004, 06:23:57 PM »
Best thing about Anchorage is that it is in Alaska.

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2004, 10:05:14 AM »
we are coming to look for a home in Sept. Will be in the area for 8 days.trying to get a lot doe in a few days but that is life. My daughter wants to know what kind of boots hes needs?

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2004, 11:07:56 AM »
Quote from: stymie
we are coming to look for a home in Sept. Will be in the area for 8 days.trying to get a lot doe in a few days but that is life. My daughter wants to know what kind of boots hes needs?


  No boots needed in September.

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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2004, 03:45:35 PM »
I lived "on the Kenai" for 25 years, and we also had a saying.

  "Anchoroids are like hemmorids, there both a pain in the a$$"

   Hope no one here is from Anchorage??  :>)

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2005, 07:32:30 PM »
I live in Anchorage...and have for over 25+ years...thanks to the Air Force.  City life is......city life..but I can crawl into my F-350 PU...and strike out for lots of adventure.  I have done the suicide fishin at the Russian River..and applied for lots of huntin permits.  I t don't matter where ya live in Alaska...it just matters that you can experience HER.  I have hunted the Arctic Circle for Caribou (Hual Road)...and it's a tuff hunt..for me.Iam 54 yrs old.  But I do it. Were do you live? I live in Anchorage, Alaska..at God's doorstep to adventure!

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2005, 09:18:05 AM »
I have many friends that live in Anchorage and Eagle River.  Most come up here (the Fairbanks area) to hunt each year.  That forces us to either fly North or West to get away from the crowds.  Also distances don't mean much to us.  It's 380 miles to Anchorage we do it in 6 hours.  During the summer the drive from Homer to Anchorage is one of the most beautiful in the world.  You can see Sheep, Goats, Moose, Eagles, porcupines, Salmon, and some times beluga Whales in Turnagin Arm.
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2005, 12:36:16 PM »
The only thing you forgot to mention about Homer is the thousands of tourists in the summer. The beach is cover with campers and you can hardly drive the spit. Regards, Byron
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