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« on: September 22, 2005, 08:23:01 AM »
You should always check your stand before you get in it.
I went out to do a little bow hunting yesterday afternoon. I got to my stand and unlocked it, as I was getting it ready to climb I saw some spider webs around the seat, this got me thinking so I looked over it real well looking into the folds, I found a large brown spider in a fold on the under sid of the seat. It would not have been good for that thing to bite me when I was up 20 feet in the tree and have a reaction.
how many times have you just got in your stand before dawn and went up the tree with out a thought?

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2005, 08:49:43 AM »
I always look for spiders, but it never fails I find them with my face in the dark when I run into there web.  :eek:
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2005, 09:16:37 AM »
I find them that way too. :evil:
when I am hunting with a bow I always walk with the bow in front of my face so I will not hit the webs.
Last year I was in my stand before light and a spider dropped on my and when I went to flick him off he bite me in the neck. I was lucky that I just got a big bump and not any more of a reaction.

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2005, 10:11:52 AM »
Quote from: Redhawk1
I always look for spiders, but it never fails I find them with my face in the dark when I run into there web.  :eek:


  Been there done that. Down here in central Fla you live in fear
  that you`ll run into a Banana Spyder`s web. Most of the time your moving along at a good clip trying to get to your spot when ...WHAM!
   Feels like you`ve been hit in the face with a tennis rackets.  Banana
   spyders are big and always seem to be in the center (where your face is) so when you make contact  the next few seconds are spent in a "TRY AND  RIP Your FACE OFF MODE".  Run into 2 or 3 of them in the dark
  and you are wired!  Then the sun comes up and it`s rattlesnake time.
 
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2005, 12:29:44 PM »
This URL is not for the squeemish.  Viewers beware.  

All spider bites, and in particular the bite of the Brown Recluse, are nothing to laugh about as the following pictures document (not that anyone here is laughing):

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=images&imgsz=all&imgc=&vf=all&va=brown+recluse+spider+bite&fr=sfp&ei=UTF-8

How something so small can inflict so much damage is a marvel of the universe.  Why it is imune to its own digestive juices is something for science to unravel.

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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2005, 12:47:49 PM »
Checking your stand or ground blind is always a goo idea.  You can never tell what manner of critter/creature has decided to take up residents.  Used to have a couple of permanent ground blinds but fighting with the Rattlesnakes, critters and bugs for ownership proved to be headache so I tore them down.  Lawdog
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2005, 12:55:50 PM »
I got bit by a spider. Everyone but the doctor told me it was a brown recluse. I didn't even feel it. I saw a black spot on my leg about the size of a BB. I thought it was skin cancer. When I got up in the morning it was three times the size and my leg had a red rash that was hot. I went to the hospital after work and they were concerned that it was skin cancer so they sent me to a specialist. He was more concerned with the rash than the black area. He said my leg was infected. He rrrrrrrrrrripped out the black area, washed out the hole and gave me some heavy antibiotics. Everything went away but the hole took almost two months to heal. Yes there is a scar.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2005, 01:36:19 PM »
From the pictures it looks like it could have been a brown recluse. but I am by no means a spider expert.

This is the first time I ever found a  critter in my stand. I have had a few squirrels sit on a branch tan think about getting in the stand with me :lol:

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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2005, 05:13:12 PM »
I have been bitten by Brown Recluse on two different occasions, both times while hunting. Did not feel either bite. It makes a nasty ulcer and infection and are very slow to heal. (2 to 3 months) Neither bite caused me to lose any work or hunting but the itching, pain, fever, burning sensation, etc. are annoying and cause no end of distraction when sitting on a tree stand while healing.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2005, 03:47:36 AM »
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     Those pictures are really something!  looks like the poison destroys the
      skin and everything else around, under, near or remotely close to the
      bite.  That is one toxic puppy.

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2005, 07:34:48 AM »
Unbelievable toxicity until you see the proof in the photos.  

I have worn Permethrin [MSDS] http://www.adapcoinc.com/pdf/PER10ECm.pdf#search='permanone' in the form of Permanone spray (10% permethrin) and watched biting insects die while probing my clothing.  I would not recommend this for bow hunters as it possess a distinct petro-chemical smell on first contact, however the active ingredient, permethrin, is still over 87% effective after repeated washings of the clothes making it practically essential.

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2005, 08:07:06 AM »
Never used a tree stand and don't know why people do.Last Saturday was opening day for Deer and a Flatlander took a fatal header off a tree stand.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2005, 08:59:20 AM »
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Never used a tree stand and don't know why people do.Last Saturday was opening day for Deer and a Flatlander took a fatal header off a tree stand.

one more reason to use a safety harness

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2005, 09:02:39 AM »
Land_Owner,
I have been treating my hunting clothes for a few years with Permethrin. it works as good as anything else I have used. I will now start treating my deer stand seat and rail pads with it as well. the bad thing about it is the price tag. but one can will last most a season on 1 set of clothing

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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2005, 09:15:13 AM »
+1 on Permethrin (aka Permanone)

Should note
- that you should NEVER APPLY DIRECTLY TO SKIN.
- You should re-treat clothes after laundering.
- I'm not sure it works on spiders... but it sure as shooting works on ticks and chiggers.

It isn't all that expensive... couple bucks a can.... and it will treat 2-3 entire sets of outerwear.

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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2005, 10:48:02 AM »
I wish I knew where you buy yours from, around me it is like $6.00 a can and I can get at most 2 uses out of 1 can,  they tell you to use about 1/2 a can for pants shirt and socks. I put them on my pants my t shirt and outter shirt and spray my boot uppers and now I will be using it on my deer stand

I am down to my last 1/2 can

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2005, 10:48:15 AM »
I purchase the 2.5% permethrin concentrate under the Ortho label at Home Depot called "Home and Garden Insect Killer" (or something like that) at $9.00 a quart.  Then I dilute to 0.50% with water (one part permethrin concentrate to four parts water) and spray on CLOTHING and SHOES with a $1.00 hand held pump sprayer.  That is the concentration in the Permanone spray, 0.50%.  It works great and costs very little.  

In reality, the permethrin creates a "hole" in the insect world all around the treated location, but for a short duration.  As soon as the permethrin is exhausted in the environment, the protective "hole" caves in.  I have this on tee shirts over the german shepherd as he lies on the back porch and around the house.  No ticks, no mosquitos, no No See-Ums.

Ditto to "Do Not use on skin", but the MSDS and literature I have read seems to indicate the toxicity to humans is nill.  Still, I only write in itallics every so often.  

I got wind of this product when a couple of researchers wrote about their two day excursion into a 305 acre park in New Smyrna Beach, FL in the Smithsonian Magazine.  They reported the strength of the chemical was sufficient to kill ants that picked up dead mosquitos and still effective after 6 washings of their clothes.  They speculated they killed 90% of the biting mosquito population in the park in two days.  Remember that "hole" theory of mine above.

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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2005, 11:19:05 AM »
thanks for the tip, I will be going to wal-mart and home depot to see if I can find it. 1 PT should last for a long time

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2005, 11:27:59 AM »
Good tip on the Ortho...

http://www.campsmarter.com/ps326.html

$ 4 a can for store-bought

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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2005, 04:01:27 PM »
O.K. I tried Land_Owners recipe and it works wonderfully. I hunt in deep, buggy swamps here in central Florida. The mosquitos and yellow flies can be unbearable during bow season. I went out this morning and evening in 90+ humidity and 90 deg temps. Bugs would buzz around for a second or two and then depart... fast. The icing was the fat doe I took at 20 yds. just before dark. She went about 30 yds & dropped. I treated my clothes early in the week and left them hanging on the carport to air out. All I heard from my buddies back at the lease camp was how bad the bugs are this time of year. I love this system. I can dress lighter and hunt much easier without the distractions
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