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« on: February 18, 2005, 12:51:36 PM »
Probably not an "important" news bit, but it sure is a good reminder for everyone to use their ashtrays if they smoke in the vehicle.  

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&ncid=757&e=10&u=/ap/20050218/ap_on_fe_st/smoking_driver

SAN FRANCISCO - A man barely escaped serious injury
Thursday after a lit cigarette he tried to toss out the window while driving
across the Bay Bridge blew back in and ignited the vehicle, according to the
California Highway Patrol.
The unidentified man was driving westbound at about 10:40 a.m. when he
tossed the cigarette out the window of his Ford Expedition, said CHP
Officer Shawn Chase.
Carried by the wind, the cigarette landed in his back seat and almost
immediately burst into flames. The man quickly pulled to the side of the
road, and leapt from the flame-filled SUV, which continued rolling into a
guard rail, Chase said.
"He thought he had thrown it in park, but he didn't and it just kept going,"
the officer said. "It was in flames by the time he got out. He had some of
his hair singed on the back of his head. It burnt down to the frame. There
was nothing left."
The incident forced the closure of the Harrison Street off-ramp and one
lane of traffic flowing into the city for about an hour.
He said the man will likely face a misdemeanor charge for littering.
"We see people throwing cigarettes out the window all the time but never a
situation like this where it comes back in," Chase said. "This guy was
lucky."
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2005, 01:01:40 PM »
Unfortunately, SAWguner can only vision humor in this.  I apologize, but this made me laugh.  I feel bad for the victim, but this is one of those stories that we tell to get a laugh out of everyone.

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2005, 01:16:24 PM »
A friend of mine, who was an ex-smoker once remarked "When you smoke, the whole world is an ash tray"  I've seen cases where another guy's car was burned up from people tossing butts out of their windows, and the thing landing in an oncoming car. It sounds like this smoker almost qualified for a 'Darwin Award'.

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2005, 01:18:01 PM »
Reckon they oughtta change the charge to attempted littering cuz if he'd a suceeded his car wouldnt a burnt up.  :)
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2005, 02:26:48 PM »
Well now, cough-hack-wheeze--I smoke them--hach, hack--cigs. Boys us smokers doan get no lettin up on these days. Pretty soon I am goin to have to buy a hunnerd acres and put in some high dollar anti-poultin stuff with filters an such.
Now you boys what shoot all that ammo outght to have a little pity on me cause I shore doan put out as much smoke as a forty five and if it is the Holy Black yer lightin up well, ya, know that is a bonfire by itsownself.
I burnt holes in everthing I own, never burnt up ma truck though, it's a wonder though with all tha stuff in tha bed.
Folks I doan ask ya to do it or like it jest take it easy on a tired ol man.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2005, 03:54:52 PM »
I hear ya William.
Heck, here you cant even smoke in a bar anymore. Started with stores, went to resturaunts & now bars. Dont affect me much as I stopped frequenting the gin mills bout 10 years ago now, cant seem to stop smoking tho & to be honest I liked drinking alot more than I like smoking.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2005, 03:56:30 PM »
Please don't construe my post as being anti smoking.  It was just an observation.

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2005, 04:00:39 PM »
Quote from: ShadowMover
Please don't construe my post as being anti smoking.  It was just an observation.



I didnt   :grin:   Just started rambling a bit when I read Williams post.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2005, 05:54:09 PM »
Shadowmover--
Why should ya be any easier on me than my wife, tha Hen--cough, hack, wheeze. :D
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2005, 06:36:09 PM »
With all due respect, let's kind of get back on track guys. :wink:   I don't want, and didn't intend, this post to start an under-the-table kicking match amongst smokers and non-smokers.  I thought it was just about the strangest thing I ever heard, and wanted to share it with everyone else.

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2005, 03:02:14 AM »
Patriot--
The off topic start was my fault.  :oops: It was my attempt at humor. :oops:
I have seen things like this happen before and I can guarentee that this ol boy will overcome the fright of it all and the story will become part of his own personal telling. Ya got to laugh at yourownself sometimes for the stupid things ya do.
Well, cept fer me, I aint never done nothin stupid in my whole life, ever.
Got some prime waterfront land in South Louisiana fer sell, needs a little fill but it can be a real nice place once ya fix er up. :D
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2005, 06:04:35 AM »
No problem, williamlayton. :agree:   Just wanted to make sure nobody finds this thread as any invitation to scorn or make uncalled for remarks. :grin:  

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2005, 05:26:31 AM »
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Well now, cough-hack-wheeze--I smoke them--hach, hack--cigs.
Dali Llama say he curious how williamlayton reconcile smoking with "body as temple" belief that commonly exist within context of religious beliefs williamlayton seem to espouse? :?   Dali say that combination must result in more than a little cognitive dissonance? :?
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2005, 12:28:44 AM »
Dali-
I didn't reconcile it---Christ Jesus did. Now if you want to believe it is a sin that is ok--I would request prayers to Christ Jesus in this respect. Your love and affection in this matter are sincerely appreciated.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2005, 01:05:46 AM »
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Dali-
Now if you want to believe it is a sin that is ok
Dali Llama say he appreciative that williamlayton allow him such belief. :-)
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2005, 01:14:17 AM »
Dahli-
Certainly, I would allow you any belief you wish to have.
Honesty does not automatically project to correctness, on either side, does it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2005, 03:08:16 AM »
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Dahli-

Honesty does not automatically project to correctness, on either side, does it.
No, it do not, respond Dali Llama.  Dali say he just know he not destroying temple by tobacco use.:-)
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2005, 03:17:26 AM »
Back on topic: Just what did this dude have in his back seat? I wouldn't think that the upholstery would flame up that fast.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2005, 04:13:52 AM »
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Back on topic: Just what did this dude have in his back seat? I wouldn't think that the upholstery would flame up that fast.
gino


Oh probably all the stuff to make meth with.  The libs would like you to feel sorry for this guy because his business was destroyed incidentally.  The guy smoking destroyed the dealers business, and smoking is wrong, so feel sorry for the dealer.  Heh heh.


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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2005, 06:57:27 AM »
When a cigarette is exposed to a good breeze it will more easily ignite material that normally wouldn't 'catch' as easily.  I've seen this on windy days here in the southwest, when people flip lit butts out their car window, and the wind rolls it across the street, into trash collected beside chain link fences.  Most of the time the butt will burn out with no problem, but the wind keeps it real hot, and will catch the trash on fire. You get grass fires along the highway the same way.

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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2005, 01:22:44 AM »
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Dali-
I didn't reconcile it---Christ Jesus did. Now if you want to believe it is a sin that is ok--I would request prayers to Christ Jesus in this respect. Your love and affection in this matter are sincerely appreciated.
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Body as Temple of God's Holy Spirit

(From Forerunner Commentary) 1 Corinthians 3:16-17  

Suppose you lived during the time that the Temple in Jerusalem was in operation. As a faithful Levite, you were given stewardship to maintain the Temple and its grounds. How would you take care of that responsibility, knowing it was God's earthly dwelling place? Would you approach it in an irreverent, slap-dash, careless, lackadaisical, "I am too busy with other things" manner? Or would you be highly respectful and orderly and do whatever your hand found to do with all your might?

Spiritually, God has already given us this responsibility. In fact, it is a double-edged responsibility, both personal and corporate. In I Corinthians 3:16-17, Paul uses "temple" as a synonym for "church," referring to the whole body of believers. This is clearly an extension of his earlier use of the building metaphor. By it, he illustrates that each person, as part of the building, has some affect on the quality of the whole building by how he conducts his life. This metaphor ties all of us together as a team with the specific responsibility of doing all we can to build up and strengthen the church. Undoubtedly, the ministry bears the greater burden, but every member is involved.

Paul begins in verse 6 by giving himself and Apollos as examples. The King James Version makes the first part of verse 8 unclear: "Now he who plants [Paul] and he who waters [Apollos] are one." The Revised Standard Version clarifies this: "He who plants and he who waters are equal." They are not one as if they are identical or bound together like a set of Siamese twins. He means that they are equally important to the result.

Paul frequently emphasizes the team aspect. He writes in verse 9, "We are God's fellow workers." In verses 10-15, 17, he refers to "each one" and "anyone" frequently. No one has any room to think that it does not matter what he or she does or fails to do to make the body spiritually healthy. A great, dominant theme of Paul's teaching is the individual's personal responsibility for his life and that—somehow, somewhere, sometime—each will have to give account to God for what he has done.

How can Paul say the various parts of the body bear equal responsibility? This thought hearkens back to the Parable of the Talents. The master does not expect his three servants to produce the same quantity, but he expects each to be equally faithful in what he entrusted to their stewardship.

In verse 17, Paul uses "destroy" twice (see margin). It is a strong warning to those committing the sins named in other parts of the epistle—advocating false doctrine, strife, jealousy, sexual immorality, and other permissive compromises—that God would hold them responsible despite how matters appeared at the time. He would destroy them because the church is holy because it belongs to God, and He has separated it from the world. Through their false doctrines or sinful conduct, whether they were aware or not, they were seeking or being used to destroy the spiritual health of the church. Each member bears responsibility for keeping himself holy and therefore spiritually healthy.

To understand this, perhaps we need nothing more than a deeper awareness that, despite the way things may presently look on the surface, our worldview—how we look at life and all its jumble of events—is quite narrow compared to God's. Once we see things from His perspective, we can see we bear a major responsibility to the body of Christ because God has included us in His great purpose.

Yet another level to this concept of responsibility to the body is, of course, taking care of our physical bodies. Because we belong to God, we are holy and are integral parts of the body of Christ, this responsibility weighs upon us with greater intensity than those who are not. In John 14:23, Jesus introduces the basis for this concept to illustrate the closeness of our relationship with God: "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him." Under the Old Covenant, God is mysterious and distant and dwelling in the Temple. Under the New Covenant, we become the Temple, and God becomes knowable and personal.

In I Corinthians 6:15-20, Paul clearly confirms these concepts:

Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For "The two," He says, "shall become one flesh." But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in you body and in your spirit, which are God's.

It is difficult to imagine how much more clearly he could express our responsibility to maintain good health! It is actually a fourfold responsibility:

1. To God because He bought us at a price;
2. To Jesus Christ because we are part of His body;
3. To ourselves to come out of sin; and
4. To our loved ones to serve them.

Meeting all of these glorifies God. Paul's concern is that debauching the body by involving it in sin threatens the continuation of the relationships. We normally think of sin as breaking a law. This is not a wrong understanding, but the Bible's usage is much broader. Biblically, sin is falling short of the glory of God, or turning aside from the path of what is right. It is also missing the mark. Sin is the Bible's term to indicate a failure to do things right, and right is the way God would do it. Of course, some failures to do what is right are far more serious than others are.
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2005, 12:04:47 PM »
Dali-
I am deeply grieved that I have offended you. I would have never posted the things I said if I had know you would be so moved by the comments.
I hope you will forgive me and I will be more careful, in the future, to consider your feelings.
To all who I have offended I ask forgivness.
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2005, 12:48:38 PM »
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Dali-
I am deeply grieved that I have offended you. I would have never posted the things I said if I had know you would be so moved by the comments.
I hope you will forgive me and I will be more careful, in the future, to consider your feelings.
To all who I have offended I ask forgivness.
Blessings

Dali Llama say that williamlayton have not offended him, thus there be no apologies required.  Dali say that williamlayton must answer to power far higher than Dali.
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