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U.S. Army struggles for recruits amid Iraq war
« on: March 06, 2005, 01:17:48 PM »
Teenagers today are in dire need for a little intestinal fortitude, in which they are lacking.

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Staff Sgt. Richard Guzman is on the front lines of one of the U.S. Army's toughest battles in years, and he's not in Iraq.

He's an Army recruiter trying to coax young men and women into volunteering to serve at a time when U.S. ground forces are engaged in a war halfway around the world.

"To me, recruiting used to be easy. Right now, you really have to hunt for those ones who really want to" serve, said Guzman, who recruits in New York City's Harlem section.

Nearly two years into an Iraq war that has left more than 1,500 U.S. troops dead and another 11,200 wounded, recruiters like Guzman are having to work hard as the Army strives to sign up 80,000 recruits this year to replace soldiers leaving the service.

The Army in February, for the first time in nearly five years, failed to achieve its monthly recruiting goal. It is in danger of missing its annual recruiting target for the first time since 1999.

Recruiting for the Army's reserve component -- the National Guard and Army Reserve -- is suffering even more as the Pentagon relies heavily on these part-time soldiers to maintain troop levels in Iraq. The regular Army is 6 percent behind its year-to-date recruiting target, the Reserve is 10 percent behind, and the Guard is 26 percent short.

The Marine Corps, the other service providing ground forces in Iraq, has its own difficulties.

In January and February, the Marines missed their goal for signing up new recruits -- the first such shortfall in nearly a decade -- but remained a bit ahead of their target for shipping recruits into basic training.

Iraq marks the first protracted conflict for U.S. forces since the end of the draft in 1973, which ushered in the era of the all-volunteer military.

If the military fails to attract enough recruits and America maintains a large commitment in Iraq, the nation may have to consider some form of conscription, said Cato Institute defense analyst Charles Pena. "This is getting dicey," said Pena.

Lt. Col. John Gillette, who commands the Army recruiting battalion in New York City, said young people and their families are asking questions about the war.

"Instead of just talking specifically to the applicant, we're talking to the applicant's parents, and, in some cases, extended family -- aunts, uncles -- just to answer their questions and concerns as well," Gillette said.

Guzman said he reassures families that a recruit will get the normal nine weeks of basic training and further individual training and not just be shoved in a uniform and sent into combat. "They think that after two weeks in basic training, they will be deployed overseas," Guzman said.

Army Recruiting Command spokesman Douglas Smith said recruiters do everything they can to allay the apprehension of recruits and families. "But there are certain things that we just can't talk our way through or give a hard answer to, like, 'Will I be deployed?' That's just not something a recruiter can predict."

The improving economy and civilian job opportunities also are factors in recruiting, Smith said.

Army Secretary Francis Harvey said the active-duty and reserve components have added 3,000 recruiters since last year and increased enlistment bonuses to try to lure new soldiers.

"So we've got a challenge, but we're certainly not going to give up," Harvey told a congressional panel.

Defense analyst Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute said there has been a migration of recruits away from the ground forces toward services less likely to be in harm's way in Iraq -- the Navy and Air Force.

"There's a bottom line to the recruiting debate. People don't want to die," Thompson said.

The problem is even more dire than it appears because the Army, through "stop-loss" orders, has forced thousands of soldiers designated for duty in Iraq and Afghanistan to remain in uniform when their volunteer service commitment ends, thus keeping recruiting needs artificially low, Pena said.

Some of these soldiers may remain in the Army involuntarily for up to 18 months beyond when they were scheduled to leave.

"The military can hold things together on a relatively short-term basis through some fairly extreme measures like 'stop-loss' and making much greater use of Reserve and Guard units to fill the requirements in Iraq," Pena said.

"But you cannot do this indefinitely. At some point, you break the force. And the question is: how close are we to that breaking point?"
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2005, 03:14:47 PM »
Well it would seem to indicate that America's youth are as willing to serve as the, VP, Sec. of Def., senate and house majority leaders were in their youth.  perhaps if they would assure those willing to serve in the NG that they could work on a political campaign instead of going to a war zone more would be willing to at least join the NG.

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2005, 04:51:04 PM »
Quote from: fe352v8
Well it would seem to indicate that America's youth are as willing to serve as the, VP, Sec. of Def., senate and house majority leaders were in their youth.  perhaps if they would assure those willing to serve in the NG that they could work on a political campaign instead of going to a war zone more would be willing to at least join the NG.

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If we based our lives upon other's failures and inadequecies, the world would be quite interesting, don't you think.  I don't believe I would think very highly of myself if I never volutneered or tried to accomplish something because someone else didn't choose that path.  You know, I knew a guy one time that stopped paying his bills...


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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2005, 05:07:02 PM »
Of course Recruiting used to be easy, kids went to the NG or to active service to get a easy way to pay for school. Does not anyone remember on the news the Parents of these kids and some of them peeing and moaining after we went to war and  the marker was called in and they had to go fight which is what a army is about. ( Not just going to school.) Jim
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2005, 06:23:56 PM »
Vietnam was a little before my time, so I've got nothing to really compare things to, yet it seems that we've manage to raise a bunch of gutless young people in this country.  I OFTEN ask young men why they haven't gone into the service, and all I get back from them is stuff like, "no way," or "it's not for me."

These young people just don't know how to live, or how to die, for that matter.  Yes, I'm serious.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2005, 08:23:52 PM »
SAWgunner,

Are you saying that the, VP, Sec. of Def., senate and house majority leaders, are failures and inadequate?  Sorry, I could not help myself I agree with you, I would not think very highly of myself if I never volutneered or tried to accomplish something because someone else chose a different path.

I just have a mis-trust of those who would urge a fight, but were unwilling to engage in one.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2005, 04:23:29 AM »
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SAWgunner,

Are you saying that the, VP, Sec. of Def., senate and house majority leaders, are failures and inadequate?  Sorry, I could not help myself I agree with you, I would not think very highly of myself if I never volutneered or tried to accomplish something because someone else chose a different path.

I just have a mis-trust of those who would urge a fight, but were unwilling to engage in one.

life is no joke but funny things happen

jon


All of us are inadequate to a certain degree.  I, for one, do not trust politicians for anything.  Having dealt with politicians quite a bit, I came to understand that they speak with a forked tongue.  I do, however, admire them for some of their qualities.  I admire the Commander in Chief for growing a spine and dealing with issues unlike Billary that smoothed talked through everything (Yes, I understand that is what politics are about, but direct action is needed sometimes).  

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