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Offline DakotaElkSlayer

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« on: March 16, 2005, 10:28:46 AM »
Just wanted to hear people's opinion on variable pistol scopes...  Is that change in eye relief a big pain?  Noticed that the Swift premium 2-6 and the Bushnell 2-6 power scopes have a constant eye relief...would that be a big added bonous or not?

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Jim
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2005, 12:08:07 PM »
For revolvers, I like a constant eye relief----for single shots I find this not as important, but of course you don't want to crowd a heavy recoiler whether hand gun or rifle.  :-) pg
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2005, 12:37:31 PM »
i have the bushnell trophy an i love it
ide get another one or i would go with buris but i like my bushnell more than i like my lea.

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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2005, 12:49:02 PM »
Slavage,
What do you have that Trophy mounted on?  How is she holding up?

Jim
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2005, 01:29:38 PM »
had it on super black hawk 44 mag
as i look at the loading bench
100 round box's x 10 box  um last year an a half i put 1000 rounds of 44 mag 300 xtp's
all so about 300 rounds of that american eagle 44 240 hp
an about 200 rounds of the 250 hp winchester sup.
the 300 xtp were loaded about 3 grains shy of max :0)
now its on a contender 357 max havent shot it yet waiting to get some dies an brass but the funds ran short real quick so im waiten for the tax man

i all so used it 5 times put about 20 rounds of 3 inch 12 gauge heavy shot from my 11-87
an around 200 rounds of 3 inch one oz rifled slugs  
used it for turky hunting last year before i  got a red dot

um i had it mounted to the vent rib of my 11-87 with millet rings made for the task

 lol hope that answered your question i tend to ramble some times
but when i get the 375 jdj thats were the bushnell is going to go on next
an im not going to lie i spent 150 for it about two years ago
an ive been tryen to brake the damm thing to get a buris lmmfao
an the worst thing is it looks  new still dident flinch  yet

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2005, 06:40:15 PM »
Thanks Slavage...  Sounds like you might have to run over it a few times with a truck if you want to break 'er!

Jim
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2005, 07:21:40 PM »
Constant eye relief is a plus with handguns. Anytime you have to shorten or lengthen your form to shoot a handgun you are likely to change the impact of the bullet. This may not be as important with smaller guns but when heavier recoil comes into play a very consistent form is important. Everyone is different with shooting handguns but I know for me when I change my form my bullet impacts also changes.

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2005, 03:37:38 AM »
Dakota,
I believe that constant or changing eye relief is first a matter of choice or preference, and second a matter of function for what you are going to do with your specialty handgun.  For instance you need less eye relief when shooting prone than you do sitting at the bench or shooting offhand.  If you are stand hunting the only way you can get a good rest my be strung out or bunched up (or somewhere in between).  If you tend to have POI problems with changing eye relief then plan on practicing with that in mind.
In other words after you do your initial load development, the majority of your shooting should be from a multitude of field possibilities at varying ranges.  All of my handgun scopes save one (4x Leupold) are Burris 3-12 PA LER's with the Ballistic Plex Reticle.  This is my choice for scopes because of the way I shoot and what I shoot in specialty handguns.  I use it for bench, sitting and prone shots.  If the ranges (target) are 50 yards or so beyond my sight-in I will in all likelyhood have it on 12 power.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2005, 09:16:25 AM »
lol run it over with the truck eh
lmfao thats kinda funny
see i got a 2002 dodge ram 1500 quad cab
that damm things in the shop all the time lol its going soon an im geten a new chevy all ways had that brand
the worse thing is the  trucks all ways messed up but i cant brake the scope lol
so i guess its better to walk than be able to shoot than it is to drive an not beable too hehe

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2005, 09:32:21 AM »
:-D
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2005, 02:24:29 PM »
Dakota-

I've got a Bausch & Lomb Elite, Lea, and TC scope.  When I choose to use a pistol scope on a handgun I prefer the fixed.  For the ranges I shoot at, the FOV and lower power work better for my style.  I also don't like the additional weight that the variables add.

Depends on what you want to do, but even though I thought I'd like the variable, turns out I like the fixed; even on my TC.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2005, 02:27:14 PM »
One thing not mentioned is the fact that with the variable, sighting is more difficult at higher powers, even though the eye relief is constant.  Not my idea of an ideal hunting proposition, but then again, I tend to stalk & 'mobile stand' hunt more than sit in a tree.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2005, 04:52:55 PM »
Man, you guys aren't making it any easier!  Every single person, be it fixed, variable, and even red dotters all have great points for choosing what they did.  My problem is that this is a FIRST for me so I haven't a clue...except not using iron sights.

Jim
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