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Offline ironglow

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« on: April 02, 2005, 02:49:33 AM »
We all know how we hate to be without at least one gun on/near our person...
   
   Is there any problem with an old man carrying a small .22lr bolt action in a travel trailer ?

  I know that in some states such as Massachusetts, I guess I can forget about carying my rifle there....but then I would avoid mass when going to New England..

   How about the other states...yours for instance..?
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2005, 03:37:59 AM »
In most places out here in the west, your home on wheels is the same as any other home.  I'm not too sure about the Peoples Republic, but even there you are allowed to protect your home....maybe.

I've always thought that a shotgun or similar device was standard equipment for motorhomes and trailers.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2005, 04:15:46 AM »
No problem in Texas.  Heck, I've stopped people with them just lying the backseat of their car.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2005, 04:49:41 AM »
Might be a problem in Oregon. I relate a true story:

In 1995, my wife was driving home in a friends car when she was pulled over by an ore. state police officer. The officer got out of the car and immediately pulled a gun. Then approached the car and told my wife that she knew she had a concealed weapon and wanted to see it right now. My wife said she didn't have one but the officer told her that she'd run her plate and it shows she has a concealed carry license. The car and the concealed carry permit were in the name of my friend, first name Clyde.
We reported the incident to the osp who later told us the officer was suspended for 5 days and sent to training, then put back to work.

What prompted the stop was my wife had swerved in the lane but never crossed ,or touched, the fog line nor the center line. What really prompted the stop I leave to your imagination.
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2005, 04:55:10 AM »
Don, I do not have an answer for you but I'm sure that if you go to www.NRA.Org you can get the information you need there.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2005, 06:21:51 AM »
here in Iowa if you are stopped off road and legitimately "camping" the trailer or motor coach constitutes your dwelling and there are no restrictions on ordinarty firearms.  If you are on the road it is a motor vehicle, and you are transporting a friearm which must be  unloaded and in a case, disassembled, or in an inacessable location.  Having a loaded magazine for it constitues a loaded firearm even if the magazine is not in the firearm.

Iowa law makes no distinction between a cartridge loader or a muzzle loader aside from the DNR's hunting regulations.

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2005, 06:34:53 AM »
Are you asking about a trailer towed behind a car or truck? If so I think you'll be ok in New England everywhere but Mass. On your backseat loaded I think you might have issues tho.  :grin:
 Vermont, New Hampshire & Maine are pretty gun friendly & CT's still ok but they do seem headed the wrong way. I know a loaded gun in a vehicle can get you in trouble here but in a trailer I'd think you would be legal, just dont go letting people know about it as the people & police here often dont know whats legal & whats not.
I was going to mention NY but since you live there I'm sure you know which way they lean regarding firearms.
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2005, 09:46:22 AM »
Lever...I meant in a small trailer


   All..thanks for your help..

  Where I am (NY), it is no sweat carrying a long gun open in the vehicle (except possibly in the big cities)  ..it must be  unloaded and  any accompanying clips or magazines must be empty...

   My main concern is with the "interstate" thing..
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2005, 05:05:37 PM »
The NRA got through a federal law some years back that guns can be legally transported across state lines despite state and local ordinances if unloaded, cased, and inacessible if you have a valid hunting licence or are going to a match for which you are registered, at your destination.

Unfortunately, this is an affirmative defense only. Places like NJ seize guns anyway. You have to go to court to present the defense, and it's likely to cost you several thousand dollars, and you are unlikely to get the guns back.
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2005, 05:57:17 PM »
Is it not amazing that back east where our "Freedom" was won. It is now lost.

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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2005, 05:58:45 AM »
Quote from: big medicine
Is it not amazing that back east where our "Freedom" was won. It is now lost.


Not all of the east, Big. Just a handful of highly urbanized states
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2005, 09:07:02 AM »
They tell me I can not carry a loaded firearm yet Police do it all the time. What makes them so special as be above the Law.

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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2005, 09:42:34 AM »
Why don't they get speeding and drunk driving tickets?
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2005, 10:56:10 AM »
Quote from: Don Fischer
Why don't they get speeding and drunk driving tickets?

They do, at least when the state trooper's show up !!! :toast:  :gulp:




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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2005, 12:11:48 PM »
New York Hunter,

Down my way a few years back we had a State Trooper get popped for DWI by a local cop. He apparently gave her a hard time and when back-up got there he was arrested. Funny thing is; several months before he was awarded by Stop DWI for his outstanding record of DWI enforcement.
Go figure.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2005, 01:36:56 PM »
I bet you 10 to 1 that if Chief Thompson had just been stopped at a DWI check point or pulled over for weaving in and out of his lane, and had not struck someone, he would have been sent on his way.  But since there was someone else involved they had no choice but to arrest him.  In fact I'm willing to bet that he had been let slide before.
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