Author Topic: Museum - Battle at New Market (VA) (Read 706 times)

Cat Whisperer · « **on:** April 03, 2005, 05:06:13 PM »

Had a chance yesterday to briefly stop at the museum at New Market, Virginia (related to VMI - where the class of cadets went into battle and held their own!)

Very helpfull people there at the museum.

A few pictures of a 'coffee grinder', a (replica) confederate coehorn and a Williams gun:

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Double D · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2005, 06:05:30 PM »

The mortar looks like it might be the 24 PDr. The transition from bore to powder chamber also appears to be a straight line and not a radius like on the Federal Mortars. Is that correct?

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2005, 01:18:25 AM »

Yes it is a 24 pounder.

BUT it is a REPLICA. Therefore the attention to details may not be there!

If it was an original I would have made many measurements.

FWIW.

Double D · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2005, 02:41:45 AM »

The replicas at New Market are supposed to be correct in every detail copied from the original except the 12 PDR nobody's ever seen authentic 12 PDR.

guardsgunner · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2005, 09:40:00 AM »

CW,
There are a bunch of mortars at the Petersburg NP. They include a reb iron model.
Nice shots of the Agar and Williams. I didnt know that they have an Agar
at New Market.
The Williams would be an intersting machining project for the more serious minded fellow. Note how the trunnions are mounted. A slipped on ring that is set screwed.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2005, 11:16:04 AM »

guardsgunner -

Thanks for the note on Petersburg. I WILL get out that way sometime as I have to make a trip out to Ft. Lee.

The collection AT VMI is also very interesting, but I didn't make a note of looking to see if there were any mortars there. It also is on the way to Ft. Lee as is Appomatox.

Lyle · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2005, 05:16:11 PM »

Thanks for posting the pictures of the Williams gun and the Union Repeating Gun/Ager. If you have any more of the Union Repeating Gun/Ager would like to see them. I have a Williams and a Union Repeating Gun

Wilson Ager patented the gun in England for the American Arms Company who bought the patent sometime before 1855. The inventors name/names aren't known for certain. The gun didn't sell well in the US. Lincoln bought 10 at $1350 each for the Union Army and a couple of months later McClellan bought 50 at $735 each. They were used at the siege at Yorktown, then put in storage and most were scrapped at the end of the War.

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Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #7 on:** April 08, 2005, 12:40:20 AM »

Lyle - thanks for your pix. I'll post it and other of both the Agar and the Williams tonight after work. Cool to see an action picture!

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2005, 02:12:04 PM »

And here they are (starting with Lyle's note):

Hello Tim:
Here's my Union Repeating Gun/Ager..friend took the picture about a month ago. .... .58 caliber..uses a Minie..40 grs is plenty of powder for short range shooting..think the service load was 60 grs or so. Gun uses "chargers" ..early steel cartridge primed with a musket cap. I'm still working on wheels for the carriage. Lyle

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