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« on: July 22, 2004, 10:58:24 PM »
What kind do you use?
Where do you get yours?
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2004, 12:31:33 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2004, 12:46:26 AM »
I've used cigarette papers, 16# college ruled paper, tgracing paper and onion skin.

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2004, 04:55:07 PM »
right now im using wall mart recipts with hemroid lube for grease.. dixie gun works also sells bullet   patch paper.. a bullet caster says he uses avery labels, and ive heard another who said they used cigarett paper..  it depends on your gun, i need three wraps of tough paper to stop stripping.. in fact its the only thing that doesnt strip in my drilling, (wall mart recipets)  good luck dave.
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2004, 12:15:27 PM »
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I use drafting vellum. It is pretty thin and really tough but seems to work in my Sharps rifles. It comes in several thickness's. The stuff I use is about .003 thick

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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2004, 03:35:54 AM »
I'd like to see a tape that could be used.

And a paper with teflon on one side.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2004, 12:19:26 PM »
I use drafting vellum too.  25% cotton, thin, and tuff.  I get it at Staples.

As long as Cat Whisperer is dreaming.  I'd like to see an automatic roller.  And/or a type of paint that you dip bullets in and let 'em dry.  

How about that powder paint they use for fishing jigs?  Just drop the bullets fresh from the mold into some of that stuff.  It would sure be eye catching seeing hot pink and chartreuse boolets!
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2004, 01:35:59 AM »
An automatic roller? In the past, I have read that some people used a cigarette maker to do this, they said it worked fine. I never ran on to one of the machines to try.

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2005, 03:23:05 PM »
Guy's its been awhile since I been to this forum... site is just getting too big for our britches  :-D

Heres the paper I use and it works like a dream.  Go to the art section at Wal-Mart... yes I know, but hey its cheap and works.

Mead tracing paper by the tablet 40 sheets $1.97

And for those that might need instructions

If ya click on my Web Site I have a link by Brent Danielson who is by far the most informed on this subject.  I have followed his guideline verbatum and it works.  Any helps that you need you can e-mail Brent and he will reply with all request.

I hope this helps.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2005, 07:58:35 PM »
Post's are too far and few between on the paper patch bullet discussion. I have couple of questions? Does anyone know of a paper company "currently" manafacturing onion skin paper in 7-11 lb weights from 100% cotton rag paper? Southworth and Eaton used to make onion skin or erasable bond paper in these weights. I have tried vellum, tracing paper, Shiloh's paper, Buffalo Arms paper, some new 25% cotton paper in onion skin. None patches up as well as "old stock" Southworth onion skin rag paper. Shiloh paper does not have a water mark, tears easily, tries to unwrap and I question  that it is cotton paper. Buffalo Arms paper has a water mark and behaves like cotton paper but is a little soft when wet. By the way the correct angle on the patch is 35 degrees, not some other figures I have seen posted. I use an office paper cutter that I marked off lines on--I cut strips the correct width and cut patches to correct length. To keep the paper straight, I mark off the strips on a stack of no more than 5 sheets at a time and staple both ends of each strip. I can cut a couple hundred patches in a few minutes. I use a patch board with a groove cut across the bottom and lines drawn perpendicular to the groove to patch the bullets. Unlike some. I dip the patches in water and put them on very wet . If they sun dry or dry overnight they seem to stay more uniform. Since I find strips and unwrapped patches in front of the muzzle I don't think the paper sticks to the bullet. After all these years paper patching is still and ongoing experiment. Let's here some imput from some of you want to be buffalo hunters.

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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2005, 12:46:32 AM »
It's been a loooong time since I've done any printing, but if you go to a local print shop - medium to large size - these are the folks that deal with the manufacturers (or distributors) of paper.  They would have the complete catalogs or better yet a phone # to the distributor who would know.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2005, 10:08:41 AM »
Cat Whisperer, you asked about tape.  Actually there is one.  Freezer tape is paper.  It is not easy to find but it worked pretty well.  I was getting promising results but stoped my tests as I needed to move to new bullets to make anymore improvements.  JB

Also, I had asked Veral Smith about using computer labels which have adhesive.  He said he had very good results with them as well.  JB

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2005, 04:04:39 PM »
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Cat Whisperer, you asked about tape.  Actually there is one.  Freezer tape is paper.  It is not easy to find but it worked pretty well.  I was getting promising results but stoped my tests as I needed to move to new bullets to make anymore improvements.  JB

Also, I had asked Veral Smith about using computer labels which have adhesive.  He said he had very good results with them as well.  JB



Interesting thought - computer labels.  Many are some flavor of paper, but when you look through the suppliers catalogs for industrial/commercial use you find things as polyester - which is a very rugged and slick stock.  They're also available in quite a large range of standard sizes - but none I've seen with the angle cut for paper-patching.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2005, 04:53:30 PM »
Cat Whisperer, The angle cut is not required if the paper is going to stay on for the entire ride.  The paper patch needs to come free a few yards down range or stay put for the entire ride.  the angle cut is designed to help a un-gluded paper jacket come free.  the angle is supposed to be applied against the rifling which should cut the paper.  The type of label Veral was talking about is the type one would buy in tractor feed for older type printers that would be used for mass mailings.  Avery labels would do.  Hope this helps.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2005, 12:50:40 AM »
Sounds like some experimentation is in order.  The proof of any product is in performance -  accuracy and consistancy.
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