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25 wssm any opinions???
« on: March 11, 2005, 05:21:53 PM »
Read on another site about the .25 wssm as a good 1 gun for ground hogs
to deer gun.  Anybody have any reports??

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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2005, 06:09:51 PM »
That could be said about any 257 cal rifle. I know nothing about the 25 wssm except what I read. Sounds like it'll do whatever the 25-06 will do but for a shorter action, of questionable value, it will do one thing the 25-06 won't. Seperate you from more of your money for amunition. I understand it's pretty expensive and only give's 25-06 velocities, which ain't all that bad.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2005, 09:49:00 AM »
The .25 WSSM is another STAR in the crown of the Quarter Bore family of cartridges.  Excellent accuracy and more than enough power for any critter from varmints up to Mule Deer.  My son bought for his wife a M70 Coyote in .25 WSSM and it’s performance this last deer season convinced me to get one for myself.  Seeing I collect Quarter Bores anyway it wasn’t too hard to make the sale.  Since the .25 WSSM is still very new, factory ammo is limited and a bit more expensive than the .25-06, which its data duplicates(or nearly so) but both cases will change with time.  If one is in the market for a rifle that will work for both varmints and big game then a good Quarter Bore is the answer in my book and the .25 WSSM is a good choice.  Lawdog
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2005, 06:45:58 AM »
Love mine, only prob is I wish I could get it in an Encore barrel........I bought the brass and dies and started reloading mine this past summer...Way cheaper to do that than by factory ammo.....

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2005, 07:07:03 AM »
Ya know what Lawdog, we all,,,ALL, just like buying rifle's and any excuse will do. I read a report on the 25wssm and was fasinated at the end to read of it's performance on game. Pick your brand of bullet. What will it do at 3100 fps out of one 24" barrel that it won't out of another 24" barrel when it arrive's at a game animal at equal range's? Nuttin'.

I'm sure that the price of ammo will come down, IF, the chambering is successful. Had a client once, that told me that a man couldn't have enough bird dog's or horse's and if he had enought money he could have all he wanted. By the way, I really like the quarter bore's too!

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2005, 08:31:27 AM »
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I'm sure that the price of ammo will come down, IF, the chambering is successful.


I don't really think that will be a problem with the way the .25 WSSM is selling.  The sales on the .25 WSSM started out a bit slow but I believe that was due to hunters/shooters being disappointed in Winchester for NOT bringing out the .257 WSM like they had a poll about at the S.H.O.T. Show that time.  The .257 WSM was the number 1 vote gatherer with the .338 WSM second.  But Winchester crossed everyone up by bringing out the .25 WSSM and the .323 WSM.  The hunters/shooters should have expected this as it is not the first time Winchester has crossed everyone up.  The .300 Winchester Magnum for example.  Winchester caught me on that one.  Lawdog
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 04:59:14 AM »
It should do you just fine.  The .25-06 is well known for it's ability to handle varmits as well as deer and other large game, and as has been well stated here, the velocities and performance of the long actions have been well documented.

Seems to me the question you need to ask is what size action do you want, whose barrel you prefer, and if you want to hand load for the
25 wssm or not.  I find it very difficult to find factory ammo for my .25-06 where I live.  I can see that problem potentially extending to the 25 wssm.

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2005, 05:17:57 PM »
All reports that I've read show that chrongraphed factory loads or handloads just equal a well loaded .257 Roberts, yet not nearly what I've gotten from my 25-06.  That's with loads still listed in a Speer manual and the two chrongraphs I've owned.  While I like .25's (own 5 calibers), unless you just have the hots for something new and different, it just does not appear to do anything that can't be done with a good .257.  By the way, the problem with Winchester not bringing out the .257 WSM was that on their pressure equipment it had a tendency to radical pressure spikes that they could not cure.

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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2005, 03:57:27 PM »
I love quarter bores and I'd buy one over a 6mm or .224 cartridge anyday but the 25 WSSM is frankly an also ran.
Don't get me wrong, it does perform I imagine but not in any manner more impressive than the 25-06 and certainly less impressive than the 257 Wby Mag.
To be honest I think 257 Roberts is one of the nicest 1/4 bores available but unfortunately it hasn't seemed to capture peoples attention like it should've.
IMO I think the only real new performer to come out of the WSSM range was the .243 WSSM.
There just aren't same number of magnum 6mm cartridges easily available as there are in the .224 and .257 cals.
But then I'm not even interested in buying one of them.
My 303/25 (Brit necked down to .257) does me fine.
One day I may upgrade to a Roberts but not real soon.
And can someone please tell me why having a short action cartridge is so important.
O.k., so the action has a little less possible flex, cycling time is marginally faster and powder burn is more efficient but if you're bedding your action and barrel and tuning your loads to your rifle like most of us do then the difference in performance becomes almost neglible. :|
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2005, 01:05:54 PM »
Blackhawk44,

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All reports that I've read show that chrongraphed factory loads or handloads just equal a well loaded .257 Roberts


It’s not really fair to compare a factory load to a reload.    A “well loaded” .25 WSSM will be extremely close to a “well loaded” .25-06 as case capacity is almost the same(I own both and have measured them).  One added point is the case walls are thicker on the WSSM cartridges too(added strength).  Lawdog
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25 wssm any opinions???
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2005, 04:41:51 PM »
Quote from: Blackhawk44
 While I like .25's (own 5 calibers), unless you just have the hots for something new and different, it just does not appear to do anything that can't be done with a good .257.  


I think that reasoning, while valid, could be substituted for any number of caliber comparisons. I think that yes, people do want new stuff so some of us can buy it, some of us can complain about yet another new caliber and some of us can pine about the days when all they needed was a 30-30. Remember, every caliber was new at some point.