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Offline joeb33050

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« on: April 14, 2005, 02:30:08 AM »
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I went to the match in Palm Bay FL on 9 April, 2005; where I leaded the barrels on my Martini 30/30 bench gun and Maynard Model 16 in 32/35. At Burger King, while drowning my sorrows in a biggie-sized meal, I tried to figure out why my guns were leading. I have a set of rifles that work well without leading-or did. Along with the two mentioned above, there’s a M54 Winchester in 30/30 and a C. Sharps Model 1875 45/70 that have been very reliable until lately. Leading is caused by bullets that are too small; I believed this and tested this theorem for many years. The bullets for these rifles were of the correct sizes; something else had gone wrong.
Munching my way along, I had just about decided that the alloy was at fault. Wheelweights, but I’ve been using wheelweights forever.  
Then, while stuffing fries in my pie hole, I thought about the Kroil. I’d seen Kroil advertised in old gun magazines, but never seen Kroil itself until recently. I bought a can about a year ago and liked it. It cleaned well, and later I found that a tight Kroiled patch, tight enough to squeak when it was pushed through the barrel, would remove lead slivers. I have been using this method to remove lead for months, and wondering why the lead? Cleaning every 2-3 sighters and 10 record shots was mandatory.
Sucking up my diet Pepsi (I do care what I look like) I thought that perhaps the Kroil was at fault.
At home I cleaned these four rifles with Marvel Mystery Oil-what I used to use for cleaning-and patched a little lithium grease into the barrels.
Wednesday, April 13, 2005, I shot each rifle over 25 rounds each and then cleaned. There was no lead in any barrel. The 30/30’s, with bullets lubricated with NRA Alox lube, took the normal 8-10 patches to get a clean patch. The Sharps and Maynard showed clean patches after four-Darr lube has always worked like this in the past. Groups were fine in the strong wind, with a 45/70 group at 1.3”, some 30/30 groups under 1”, and 27 shots through the Maynard in 3.45” wide X 2.5” high.
I’m convinced that it’s the Kroil, that the Kroil cleans the barrel TOO clean, causing the barrel to lead. Following the Kroil with Marvel Mystery Oil and lithium grease may solve the problem, but I’m back to MMO for all lead load cleaning and the Kroil’s going on the shelf.
Joe b.

Offline bob allen

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2005, 03:31:23 PM »
I caught this post on the ASSRA site,and also noticed another article of similar nature,on barrels that are too smooth,therefore increased leading.
 I also have noticed in CBA match results,there are some shooters who used ACCUMAX barrels which are VERY smooth.I would have thought a smooth bore an asset,fire or hand lapping,etc.
  Is there anyone out there who can shed so light on this.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2005, 03:52:15 PM »
I just tried the Bear Creek Supply "BCS" moly coated lead cast bullets(240gr 44cal swc) from NorthWest Loading in my 44mag redhawk which has always had leading problems for eons.  They make them in all calibers and you may want to give them a try.  After shooting all day my barrels haven't been so clean with lead cast bullets.     BigBill